
Putting the lid on Chernobyl
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Lead jock straps and vodka all around I'm buying.
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Not great.
Not terrible.
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Not terrible.
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"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone." – clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far." – Grammatron
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Shit. That's going to end up in your sig." – Pyrrho
"Try a twelve step program and accept Doctor X as your High Power." – asthmatic camel
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Re: Putting the lid on Chernobyl
Let’s put a cover over the problem
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Congratulations
You put off the problem for a few decades more
You put off the problem for a few decades more
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It’s not a containment
Just to keep the rain out
Just to keep the rain out
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Like every other complete meltdown/explosion
It will never be actually cleaned up
It will never be actually cleaned up
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Oh no, you got to keep the rain out for at least the next 10,000 years
There is no question of that
I'm sure the new roof will last at least 40 years
maybe
There is no question of that
I'm sure the new roof will last at least 40 years
maybe
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100 according to the producers of HBOs 'Chernobyl'.
Rain is an issue, can't have it seeping through the corium and then out into ground water. There is also the dust problem: Anything falling into what's left of the core will raise a dust cloud loaded with radioisotopes. Not good.
Rain is an issue, can't have it seeping through the corium and then out into ground water. There is also the dust problem: Anything falling into what's left of the core will raise a dust cloud loaded with radioisotopes. Not good.
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The dust is all around.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2 ... lummeting/Chernobyl Fires Drop Radioactive Ash, Send Air Quality Plummeting
Fires that burned near the Chernobyl nuclear power plant site in Ukraine for over a week were put out by firefighters and rain earlier this week, but a new report finds elevated levels of radiation in the area as well as the capitol city of Kiev.Smoke haze hangs over the Ukrainian capital of Kiev on April 17, 2020
The fires burned into the exclusion zone around the power plant that famously melted down in 1986, leading to the worst nuclear accident in history. The blazes burned right up to within a kilometer of the plant itself.
A report released Wednesday by the French Radioprotection and Nuclear Safety Institute (IRSN) shows that samples taken of the air in Kiev had elevated levels of radioactive cesium 137, which peaked around April 10 - 11. During this period the observed levels of the radioactive isotope were almost an order of magnitude higher than at the time the blaze was just getting going.
“These values are significantly higher than the values usually measured for cesium 137 in the air in Kiev and show evidence of the passage of contaminated air masses,” the report reads. “However, they remain moderate and have no health consequences.”
The smoke itself may have health consequences of its own, however. Air quality in Kiev registered as the worst in the world this week thanks to winds carrying the smoke into the city.
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You know why they built it far away and then slide it in place?
Because it’s still too radioactive to do anything close to it
Because it’s still too radioactive to do anything close to it
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I was kidding about it just being for rain
It’s also to try and reduce the radioactive material from getting out
And someday (haha haha) will be used to decommission the site
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
HA!
It’s also to try and reduce the radioactive material from getting out
And someday (haha haha) will be used to decommission the site
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
HA!
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There is a little tiny reactor in England that melted down, and it hasn’t been cleaned up yet
It happened in 1957
If you think any of the big fucking disasters ever be “safe”, you would be wrong
It happened in 1957
If you think any of the big fucking disasters ever be “safe”, you would be wrong
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Bullshit. They will. In about 100,000 years.
IOW, no humans will be around to see it. We will have fucked ourselves in some other way long before then.

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Maybe. But spent nuclear fuel is a guaranteed disaster
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Agreed.
Doesn't have to be this way, but this is the short sighted greedy fucking reality we live in.
Doesn't have to be this way, but this is the short sighted greedy fucking reality we live in.
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Saw the documentary. The roof/ceiling of the original structure is falling apart, when bits of debris fall onto the mess on the floor you get dust clouds as well as the rain issue.sparks wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:47 pm 100 according to the producers of HBOs 'Chernobyl'.
Rain is an issue, can't have it seeping through the corium and then out into ground water. There is also the dust problem: Anything falling into what's left of the core will raise a dust cloud loaded with radioisotopes. Not good.
Final thought of the doc was that they will keep having to build bigger and bigger structures over the next 10000 years to "house" the reactor.
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Oddly that makes me think of the SCP's Potato Dimension.Hotarubi wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:25 amSaw the documentary. The roof/ceiling of the original structure is falling apart, when bits of debris fall onto the mess on the floor you get dust clouds as well as the rain issue.sparks wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:47 pm 100 according to the producers of HBOs 'Chernobyl'.
Rain is an issue, can't have it seeping through the corium and then out into ground water. There is also the dust problem: Anything falling into what's left of the core will raise a dust cloud loaded with radioisotopes. Not good.
Final thought of the doc was that they will keep having to build bigger and bigger structures over the next 10000 years to "house" the reactor.
Short version:
Spoiler:
"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little bit more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor. Then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat, and then he beat the crap out of every single one. And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a zoo! (Beat) Unless it's a farm!"
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The gift that keeps on giving!
Because graphite!

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– J.D.
Mob of the Mean: Free beanie, cattle-prod and Charley Fan Club!
"Doctor X is just treating you the way he treats everyone--as subhuman crap too dumb to breathe in after you breathe out." – Don
DocX: FTW. – sparks
"Doctor X wins again." – Pyrrho
"Never sorry to make a racist Fucktard cry." – His Humble MagNIfIcence
"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone." – clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far." – Grammatron
"Indeed you are a river to your people.
Shit. That's going to end up in your sig." – Pyrrho
"Try a twelve step program and accept Doctor X as your High Power." – asthmatic camel
"just like Doc X said." – gnome
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"Doctor X is just treating you the way he treats everyone--as subhuman crap too dumb to breathe in after you breathe out." – Don
DocX: FTW. – sparks
"Doctor X wins again." – Pyrrho
"Never sorry to make a racist Fucktard cry." – His Humble MagNIfIcence
"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone." – clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far." – Grammatron
"Indeed you are a river to your people.
Shit. That's going to end up in your sig." – Pyrrho
"Try a twelve step program and accept Doctor X as your High Power." – asthmatic camel
"just like Doc X said." – gnome




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Radioactive graphite is the big problem from the 1957 fire and meltdown in England
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Well, that's to be expected when you moderate with graphite. It's a damned shitty choice.
"Because it's cheaper!"
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Mob of the Mean: Free beanie, cattle-prod and Charley Fan Club!
"Doctor X is just treating you the way he treats everyone--as subhuman crap too dumb to breathe in after you breathe out." – Don
DocX: FTW. – sparks
"Doctor X wins again." – Pyrrho
"Never sorry to make a racist Fucktard cry." – His Humble MagNIfIcence
"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone." – clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far." – Grammatron
"Indeed you are a river to your people.
Shit. That's going to end up in your sig." – Pyrrho
"Try a twelve step program and accept Doctor X as your High Power." – asthmatic camel
"just like Doc X said." – gnome
WS CHAMPIONS X4!!!!
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"Doctor X is just treating you the way he treats everyone--as subhuman crap too dumb to breathe in after you breathe out." – Don
DocX: FTW. – sparks
"Doctor X wins again." – Pyrrho
"Never sorry to make a racist Fucktard cry." – His Humble MagNIfIcence
"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone." – clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far." – Grammatron
"Indeed you are a river to your people.
Shit. That's going to end up in your sig." – Pyrrho
"Try a twelve step program and accept Doctor X as your High Power." – asthmatic camel
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In 63 years nobody has figured out how to deal with radioactive graphite
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http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/worl ... cle/582500Ukraine seeks World Heritage status for Chernobyl zone
More than three decades after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster forced thousands to evacuate, there is an influx of visitors to the area that has spurred officials to seek official status from UNESCO.
"The Chernobyl zone is already a world famous landmark," guide Maksym Polivko told AFP during a tour on a recent frosty day.
"But today this area has no official status," the 38-year-old said of the exclusion zone where flourishing wildlife is taking over deserted Soviet-era tower blocks, shops and official buildings.
That could be set to change under the government initiative to have the area included on the UNESCO heritage list alongside landmarks like India's Taj Mahal or Stonehenge in England.
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From what I can tell, just don't in the first place.
"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little bit more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor. Then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat, and then he beat the crap out of every single one. And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a zoo! (Beat) Unless it's a farm!"
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