Wolfram's Theory of Everything

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Finally We May Have a Path to the Fundamental Theory of Physics…
and It’s Beautiful


It’s unexpected, surprising—and for me incredibly exciting. To be fair, at some level I’ve been working towards this for nearly 50 years. But it’s just in the last few months that it’s finally come together. And it’s much more wonderful, and beautiful, than I’d ever imagined.

In many ways it’s the ultimate question in natural science: How does our universe work? Is there a fundamental theory? An incredible amount has been figured out about physics over the past few hundred years. But even with everything that’s been done—and it’s very impressive—we still, after all this time, don’t have a truly fundamental theory of physics.

Back when I used do theoretical physics for a living, I must admit I didn’t think much about trying to find a fundamental theory; I was more concerned about what we could figure out based on the theories we had. And somehow I think I imagined that if there was a fundamental theory, it would inevitably be very complicated.

But in the early 1980s, when I started studying the computational universe of simple programs I made what was for me a very surprising and important discovery: that even when the underlying rules for a system are extremely simple, the behavior of the system as a whole can be essentially arbitrarily rich and complex.

And this got me thinking: Could the universe work this way? Could it in fact be that underneath all of this richness and complexity we see in physics there are just simple rules? I soon realized that if that was going to be the case, we’d in effect have to go underneath space and time and basically everything we know. Our rules would have to operate at some lower level, and all of physics would just have to emerge.
https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/202 ... beautiful/ for the rest.

Long but interesting read. A book will follow.

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Didn't he change his name to tungsten at some point?
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Interesting
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Over my head.

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Oh yeah!!!

Why does the OP conjure up this?

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Indeed

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But can you build a bomb with it? :)
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You can build ANYTHING with it.

That's why (to quote the author):
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He's either one of the greatest geniuses of all time or a complete fucking loony.
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shemp wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:04 pm
He's either one of the greatest geniuses of all time or a complete fucking loony.
Not mutually exclusive. Arguably, Tesla ...
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It looks pretty legit


Totally unlike anything else however
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That the renderings work best in 3D is pretty cool
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shemp wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:04 pm
He's either one of the greatest geniuses of all time or a complete fucking loony.
Difficult to say.

Quoting from the Wiki page of his preceding magnum opus, A New Kind of Science (NKS):
Methodology

A common criticism of NKS is that it does not follow established scientific methodology. For instance, NKS does not establish rigorous mathematical definitions, nor does it attempt to prove theorems; and most formulas and equations are written in Mathematica rather than standard notation. Along these lines, NKS has also been criticized for being heavily visual, with much information conveyed by pictures that do not have formal meaning. It has also been criticized for not using modern research in the field of complexity, particularly the works that have studied complexity from a rigorous mathematical perspective. And it has been criticized for misrepresenting chaos theory: "Throughout the book, he equates chaos theory with the phenomenon of sensitive dependence on initial conditions (SDIC)."
In a 2002 review of NKS, the Nobel laureate and elementary particle physicist Steven Weinberg wrote, "Wolfram himself is a lapsed elementary particle physicist, and I suppose he can't resist trying to apply his experience with digital computer programs to the laws of nature. This has led him to the view (also considered in a 1981 paper by Richard Feynman) that nature is discrete rather than continuous. He suggests that space consists of a set of isolated points, like cells in a cellular automaton, and that even time flows in discrete steps. Following an idea of Edward Fredkin, he concludes that the universe itself would then be an automaton, like a giant computer. It's possible, but I can't see any motivation for these speculations, except that this is the sort of system that Wolfram and others have become used to in their work on computers. So might a carpenter, looking at the moon, suppose that it is made of wood."
So it's a tad "Impressionist science", a style which doesn't sit too well with the mainstream. (But is not completely unknown, e. g. some books by Mandelbrot of set fame are very much "look how these graphs are similar".)

And even if Wolfram's promises aren't realized, his forthcoming book – clearly extending NKS – will probably make for an interesting read.

Not so bad.


If you have too much time on your hands (ha ha!) you can dip into his blog (https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/) which has some interesting morsels.
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If he wishes to write books in which he makes claims that are not supported by any evidence whatsoever, well cranks and twats do that every fucking day.
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So does almost everybody on the internet and in the news each day
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Agreed. But in this case, that doesn't make this 'theory' of his an accurate representation of the way the Cosmos works. Now, maybe he's absolutely correct. But the jury is out until we have evidence provided by double blind experimentation, and at this point, he has none to offer. Extraordinary, intriguing and even likeable claims abound. But extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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ed wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:43 pm
You can build ANYTHING with it.

That's why (to quote the author):
It’s unexpected, surprising—and for me incredibly exciting. To be fair, at some level I’ve been working towards this for nearly 50 years. But it’s just in the last few months that it’s finally come together. And it’s much more wonderful, and beautiful, than I’d ever imagined.
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Thanks for reminding me. :)


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FUCK. Quick, how do we find out who owns it? Maybe they can be persuaded to update?
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