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Re: Mexico, WTF

Post by ed » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:49 pm

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Re: Mexico, WTF

Post by Skeeve » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:29 pm

ed wrote:
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It is a bit ostentatious IMHO...
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Re: Mexico, WTF

Post by WildCat » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:51 am

Skeeve wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:29 pm
ed wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:49 pm
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It is a bit ostentatious IMHO...
It's made out of tortillas for when you want a snack. You can see he's already taken a few bites out of it.
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Re: Mexico, WTF

Post by Witness » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:58 am

Mexico: Two Elected Officials Killed In 24 Hours

The two elected local authorities were murdered Friday by unknown shooters. Mexican authorities have not captured any suspects.

Eliseo Delgado and Zenon Cocula, elected officials with Mexican president-elect Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador’s National Renewal Movement (Morena) party, were executed Friday by unknown shooters in Mexico.
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Mexicans elected Lopez Obrador as their new president on July 1. Since then, his cabinet has announced a new strategy to combat drug trafficking and the violence associated with the drug trade. This strategy includes the legalization of marijuana and poppy, the establishment of truth commissions for unclarified cases of human rights violations, and amnesties for convicted criminals who can help the justice system further investigations.
https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/ ... -0005.html

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Re: Mexico, WTF

Post by Skeeve » Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:51 am

Witness wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:58 am
Mexico: Two Elected Officials Killed In 24 Hours

The two elected local authorities were murdered Friday by unknown shooters. Mexican authorities have not captured any suspects.

Eliseo Delgado and Zenon Cocula, elected officials with Mexican president-elect Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador’s National Renewal Movement (Morena) party, were executed Friday by unknown shooters in Mexico.
[…]
Mexicans elected Lopez Obrador as their new president on July 1. Since then, his cabinet has announced a new strategy to combat drug trafficking and the violence associated with the drug trade. This strategy includes the legalization of marijuana and poppy, the establishment of truth commissions for unclarified cases of human rights violations, and amnesties for convicted criminals who can help the justice system further investigations.
https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/ ... -0005.html
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Re: Mexico, WTF

Post by Witness » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:42 am

June homicides down 10% from May but six-month figures up 15% over last year

Homicide figures for the first six months of 2018 were up 15% compared to the same period last year, making the January to June period the most violent of at least the past two decades.

There were 13,738 intentional homicides to the end of last month, according to the National Public Security System (SNSP), compared to 11,940 between January and June last year.

The figure equates to an average of 2,289 murders per month or just over 76 a day.

SNSP data shows that 68% of this year’s intentional homicides were committed with a firearm.
[big snip]
There were more than 29,000 homicides last year, which made 2017 the most violent year on record.

The federal government also deployed a record number of troops last year.

Among the measures proposed or currently being considered by president-elect Andrés Manuel López Obrador and his team to combat the spiraling levels of violent crime are implementing an amnesty law, legalizing drugs and providing better training, pay and conditions for the nation’s police.

The incoming administration also plans to gradually withdraw the military from public security duties on Mexico’s streets.
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/six-mo ... res-up-15/

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Re: Mexico, WTF

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Children's remains found in Mexican mass graves

Tiny pants for a baby no older than 6 months and shiny pink sandals for a toddler are among the personal items that have turned up at mass graves in the Gulf state of Veracruz, driving home the brutality of rising violence in Mexico.

Mexican authorities have found remains of children along with adults in the clandestine burial pits, a person with knowledge of the investigation confirmed Sunday. Each item of clothing was either found near a body or cut free from remains. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to discuss the details publicly.

The National Commission of Missing Persons posted online hundreds of pictures of clothing Friday to give family members a tool to possibly identify missing loved ones. The images include polo shirts with logos still intact, socks, shoes, colorful boxer briefs and ladies' panties.
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Authorities announced the discovery of the mass graves in early September after having counted 166 skulls. The Interior Ministry said Friday that the body count had since risen to 174. Digging continues at the sites and the picture catalog will be updated as additional garments are found.

It's unusual for Mexican authorities to share forensic evidence from an investigation that is underway. But thousands of Mexicans are clamoring for information about relatives who have disappeared since the government declared war on drug cartels more than a decade ago.

Criminal groups have reportedly detained entire busloads of passengers in Veracruz in recent years, sometimes robbing passengers and other times taking people away.
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Re: Mexico, WTF

Post by Witness » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:14 am

Mexican military disarm entire police force in resort city of Acapulco 'corrupted by drug gangs'

Two police commanders accused of murder, while other officers face background checks

Mexican authorities have taken control of the entire police force in the southern Mexican city of Acapulco, claiming the department has been infiltrated by drug gangs.

Two police commanders have been accused of murder, while the rest of the force officers have been stripped of their guns, radios and bulletproof vests and taken for background checks.

Acapulco – a beach resort – was a fashionable location favoured by movie stars in the 1950s and 60s, but has since been plagued by escalating violence due to warring drug gangs.

State police and the military will now assume the law enforcement responsibilities in the city, which has some 800,000 residents.
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Last year, Acapulco had a murder rate of 103 per 100,000 residents, one of the highest in Mexico and the world.

The CIA has said the level of violence is comparable with war zones such as Syria and Iraq.

Bodies are regularly dumped on the beachfront or left hanging from motorway bridges, according to reports.
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Re: Mexico, WTF

Post by Skeeve » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:10 am

House Majority Leader Introduces Legislation To Fund Border Wall, Deal With Sanctuary Cities, Gangs, Drug Trafficking, And More

And I thought the Daily Fail had long article titles....
On Friday, House Majority Leader Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) introduced the "Build The Wall, Enforce The Law Act" to fund President Trump’s long-promised wall along the southern border of the United States.
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President Trump’s election was a wakeup call to Washington. The American People want us to build the Wall and enforce the law.

Today, I introduced legislation that commits the House to these goals. This bill combats sanctuary cities, transnational gangs like MS-13, human trafficking, and deadly drugs like fentanyl. It supports federal law enforcement like ICE. And it fully funds the Wall by appropriating the full amount requested by President Trump for its construction, bringing the total amount of funding to $25 billion.
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Re: Mexico, WTF

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Rising rates of homicides and drug violence have created an overflow at Mexico's morgues. So much so, that several cities have resorted to storing dead bodies in refrigerated trailers.

This sparked a national scandal after some residents complained about the stench coming from one of the trailers parked in their neighborhood in the western city of Guadalajara.

Authorities say there are two trailers packed with human remains, and dozens more bodies stacked up in the city's morgue. They say there are 444 in all. Some of the bodies have been in storage for more than three years.

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But officials in Guadalajara face another problem — the seemingly endless arrival of new bodies.

In a hillside neighborhood on the outskirts of Guadalajara, police officers climbed into their truck and drove out of Robles on a recent night. They just finished recovering four bodies from a clandestine shallow grave in an empty field behind the rows of houses.

"We are no longer known as Robles, now it's the Robles graveyard," says a resident who would only give me her first name, María. She says she's scared of the drug gangs that are dumping bodies here. Homicides have exploded in the state of Jalisco, home to the country's now largest and most vicious drug gang, the Jalisco New Generation Cartel.

Last year more than 1,300 murders were reported in Jalisco. This year's figure already tops 1,400.
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Re: Mexico, WTF

Post by Skeeve » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:19 pm

Pyrrho wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:52 am

Rising rates of homicides and drug violence have created an overflow at Mexico's morgues. So much so, that several cities have resorted to storing dead bodies in refrigerated trailers.

...(yuuuge snip)....

Last year more than 1,300 murders were reported in Jalisco. This year's figure already tops 1,400.
Haven't these folks ever herd of mass graves?

Jalisco!
I believe that is one of the towns (perhaps the main town) where the so called "black tar" heroin is coming from...
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In addition to increasing awareness of heroin use in the US, it has become more and more apparent that two of Mexico's biggest cartels — the Sinaloa cartel and the Jalisco New Generation cartel — are providing the supply and battling each other for the ability to do so.
I thought so...
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Re: Mexico, WTF

Post by ed » Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:03 pm

I don't understand. Doesn't Mexico have very strict gun control? How is this possible?
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Re: Mexico, WTF

Post by Anaxagoras » Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:57 pm

The strictest gun control laws in the world won't help if they aren't or can't be enforced.

Japan has very strict gun control laws, and very close to zero gun violence. Three people were killed by guns last year.

https://www.nippon.com/en/features/h00178/
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Re: Mexico, WTF

Post by ed » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:49 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:57 pm
The strictest gun control laws in the world won't help if they aren't or can't be enforced.

Japan has very strict gun control laws, and very close to zero gun violence. Three people were killed by guns last year.

https://www.nippon.com/en/features/h00178/
You have a homogeneous society with shared values and a mechanism for social ostracism for malefactors. I suspect that folks would turn a bad guy in in a second.

Clearly you could benefit from some good old fashioned diversity. We'll send some SJW over forthwith.
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Post by Skeeve » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:06 pm

I knew that town sounded familiar.
More about Jalisco
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Quinones described how the town of Jalisco in Nayarit, succeeded with a one-product industry – as many towns in Mexico did – but that its one product for export was black tar heroin.

The Jalisco dealers who moved to the Unites States were largely nonviolent and had a flair for customer service.

Quinones said these dealers would come to the U.S. “clean out a JCPenney” by buying jeans, then trade their Levi’s bounty with Mexican residents for heroin, which they would then to sell to Midwesterners.

“[They] couldn’t kill each other and eliminate their competition because they were all from the same town. They were related,” Quinones said of the newly transplanted community. “But they had figured out this magnificent system for transforming very cheap black tar heroin into stacks of gleaming Levi’s 501 jeans.”

The dealers, who had initially immigrated to Canoga Park in Los Angeles as well as Ventura County further north, expanded to states like West Virginia and built a booming business selling small balloons filled with heroin, delivering it to customers like pizza delivery men.

Quinones said he first approached the topic of heroin abuse from the perspective of a crime reporter before realizing there was a broader story to tell — the destruction of small town America and huge portions of the middle class at the hands of American pharmaceutical companies.
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Re: Mexico, WTF

Post by sparks » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:50 pm

If we just give Texas back to Mexico, all will be well.
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Re: Mexico, WTF

Post by Giz » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:57 pm

sparks wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:50 pm
If we just give Texas back to Mexico, all will be well.
Couldn’t we give California instead?

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Re: Mexico, WTF

Post by sparks » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:01 pm

Fine with me. As long as Texas goes too. Just to sweeten the deal.
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Re: Mexico, WTF

Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:38 am

Big if true:

El Chapo 'paid $100m bribe to former Mexican president Peña Nieto'

That's the one who just left office in 2018. I wonder about the new one. This is what someone has testified under oath at "El Chapo's" trial.
Former Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto accepted a $100m (£77m) bribe from drug cartel kingpin Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, a witness has testified.

Alex Cifuentes, who says he was a close associate of Guzman for years, told a New York City courtroom that he had told authorities of the bribe in 2016.

Guzman is accused of being behind the Sinaloa drug cartel, which prosecutors say was the largest US drug supplier.

Mr Peña Nieto served as the president of Mexico from 2012 to 2018.

Mr Guzman, 61, has been on trial in Brooklyn since November after he was extradited from Mexico to face charges of trafficking cocaine, heroin and other drugs as leader of what the US has called the world's largest drug cartel.
I suppose there might be some reasons to be skeptical of this claim. Like, if it's true, why did Mexico extradite him to the US? Did El Chapo get what he paid for? I don't know, but you would think $100 million would go a long way in getting the government to "look the other way".
According to reporters in the Brooklyn courthouse, Mr Peña Nieto had requested $250m before settling on $100m.

Cifuentes claimed the delivery was made to Mexico City in October 2012 by a friend of El Chapo.

Cifuentes, a Colombian drug lord who has described himself as El Chapo's "right-hand man", worked as his secretary and spent two years hiding from authorities with him in the Mexican mountains, according to prosecutors.

He was arrested in Mexico in 2013 and was later extradited to the United States where he pleaded guilty to drug trafficking in a deal with prosecutors.

Mr Peña Nieto has not responded to the latest claim, but has previously rejected allegations of corruption that have surfaced during the trial since it began in November.
If true though, the corruption goes all the way to the top. How do you solve a problem like that?
Mr Guzman's lawyer, Jeffrey Lichtman, has argued that the real leader of the Sinaloa cartel is Ismael "El Mayo" Zambada.

He claims Mr Zambada has survived prosecution by bribing the "entire" Mexican government, including Mr Peña Nieto and former president Felipe Calderóne.

President Peña Nieto and Mr Calderón immediately rejected the accusation, with the latter calling it "absolutely false and reckless".

In November another cartel member testified that an aide to current Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador was allegedly paid a bribe in 2005.
Could the "entire" Mexican government be on the take to drug cartels?
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Re: Mexico, WTF

Post by Doctor X » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:25 am

Clearly Trump is to blame.

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