The SJW war on us thread

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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Post by Nyarlathotep » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:02 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
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Until xouper definitively tells me otherwise, my hypothesis Is same book pitched two genres.

I'm looking to xouper to read them, you see. :)

What exactly is "young adult fiction" anyway?

I suppose no pr0n no gore and a positive mental outlook, but many a "mainstream" novel of the past is the same.

YA has no real definition, just books pitched at teenagers, especially teenaged girls. Basically. "Twilight" is considered "YA" so is "The Hunger Games". Dystopia seems to be a common theme, usually a female "Chosen one" protagonist, A love triangle of some sort seems to be almost obligatory. Mary Sues abound.

Just my own personal observation, but in various writing groups I have noticed that "YA" authors are the worst for thinking "My character is a bisexual genderfluid demiromantic autistic person of color" is a substitute for giving them an actual personality. Maybe not the pros, but at least the amateurs and wannabes.
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:08 pm

Also, in a recent conversation about the use of the word "Negro" I was involved with recently, that while MOST people said things like "I wouldn't use it in a modern book, but if your book is set in the '50s, that WAS the polite word so that's what you should use, at least in dialogue" that it was mostly YA wannabe authors who were pitching a fit about how you should NEVER use it under any circumstances because it sounds too much like a certain other N-word. I can only guess they wanted a book set in 1955 to have people using phrases like "POC" that weren't invented until much later.

Seriously, I find YA authors and (to an extent) readers seem determined to tick off all the boxes on the "Why SJW is considered an insult" Bingo cards.
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:17 pm

This video, though about dystopian stories, describes YA pretty well, IMO.

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Post by WildCat » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:21 pm

I can't even...

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:47 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:08 pm
Also, in a recent conversation about the use of the word "Negro" I was involved with recently, that while MOST people said things like "I wouldn't use it in a modern book, but if your book is set in the '50s, that WAS the polite word so that's what you should use, at least in dialogue" that it was mostly YA wannabe authors who were pitching a fit about how you should NEVER use it under any circumstances because it sounds too much like a certain other N-word. I can only guess they wanted a book set in 1955 to have people using phrases like "POC" that weren't invented until much later.

Seriously, I find YA authors and (to an extent) readers seem determined to tick off all the boxes on the "Why SJW is considered an insult" Bingo cards.
Damn I'm fucking old. :oldman:

I remember my lefty parents very carefully instructing me to use the word "negro", and not say "colored" like one on my grandmas did.
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Post by shuize » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:01 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:47 pm
Nyarlathotep wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:08 pm
Also, in a recent conversation about the use of the word "Negro" I was involved with recently, that while MOST people said things like "I wouldn't use it in a modern book, but if your book is set in the '50s, that WAS the polite word so that's what you should use, at least in dialogue" that it was mostly YA wannabe authors who were pitching a fit about how you should NEVER use it under any circumstances because it sounds too much like a certain other N-word. I can only guess they wanted a book set in 1955 to have people using phrases like "POC" that weren't invented until much later.

Seriously, I find YA authors and (to an extent) readers seem determined to tick off all the boxes on the "Why SJW is considered an insult" Bingo cards.
Damn I'm fucking old. :oldman:

I remember my lefty parents very carefully instructing me to use the word "negro", and not say "colored" like one on my grandmas did.

I remember several of my older relatives who were careful to use "negro" in conversation would refer to Brazil nuts as "niggertoes" without a second thought.

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Post by Rob Lister » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:53 am

shuize wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:01 am
Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:47 pm
Nyarlathotep wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:08 pm
Also, in a recent conversation about the use of the word "Negro" I was involved with recently, that while MOST people said things like "I wouldn't use it in a modern book, but if your book is set in the '50s, that WAS the polite word so that's what you should use, at least in dialogue" that it was mostly YA wannabe authors who were pitching a fit about how you should NEVER use it under any circumstances because it sounds too much like a certain other N-word. I can only guess they wanted a book set in 1955 to have people using phrases like "POC" that weren't invented until much later.

Seriously, I find YA authors and (to an extent) readers seem determined to tick off all the boxes on the "Why SJW is considered an insult" Bingo cards.
Damn I'm fucking old. :oldman:

I remember my lefty parents very carefully instructing me to use the word "negro", and not say "colored" like one on my grandmas did.

I remember several of my older relatives who were careful to use "negro" in conversation would refer to Brazil nuts as "niggertoes" without a second thought.
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:19 pm

Sometimes it's more "war on themselves" than whoever else they think they are at war on.

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I'm guessing Miz Segev is Joosh (and maybe even Israeli).
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Post by WildCat » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:36 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:19 pm
I'm guessing Miz Segev is Joosh (and maybe even Israeli).
I'm pretty certain that Jewish trans people are the first to be tossed off a tall building when his/her/their/whatever "Palestinian siblings" are "liberated".
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Post by Giz » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:59 pm

WildCat wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:36 pm
Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:19 pm
I'm guessing Miz Segev is Joosh (and maybe even Israeli).
I'm pretty certain that Jewish trans people are the first to be tossed off a tall building when his/her/their/whatever "Palestinian siblings" are "liberated".
Hamas is all about transitioning them to the ‘other side’

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Post by ed » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:22 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:47 pm
Nyarlathotep wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:08 pm
Also, in a recent conversation about the use of the word "Negro" I was involved with recently, that while MOST people said things like "I wouldn't use it in a modern book, but if your book is set in the '50s, that WAS the polite word so that's what you should use, at least in dialogue" that it was mostly YA wannabe authors who were pitching a fit about how you should NEVER use it under any circumstances because it sounds too much like a certain other N-word. I can only guess they wanted a book set in 1955 to have people using phrases like "POC" that weren't invented until much later.

Seriously, I find YA authors and (to an extent) readers seem determined to tick off all the boxes on the "Why SJW is considered an insult" Bingo cards.
Damn I'm fucking old. :oldman:

I remember my lefty parents very carefully instructing me to use the word "negro", and not say "colored" like one on my grandmas did.
I was in grade school ... <=6th year 1960????? Anyhoo, this was the time of "integration" and they bussed these poor black kids from god knowns where to Forest Hills. So these two black kids were fighting and the teaches got them apart. The one kid complained "he called me BLACK!!!"

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Post by Anaxagoras » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:19 am

I posted about this (on page 163 of this thread):
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From The Daily Caller:

Revealed: Antifa Leader Relied On Anonymity To Push Radical, Violent Communist Agenda
Editor’s note: The subject of this story is being identified because he’s pushed radical rhetoric and has advocated for politically-motivated violence from behind a mask. The Daily Caller News Foundation does not and will not publish truly private information such as home addresses.

The Daily Caller News Foundation has determined that an influential Antifa leader uses aliases to spread radical and often violent rhetoric while concealing his actual identity.
Joseph “Jose” Alcoff works with congressional Democrats as part of his day job as a manager with a DC-based advocacy group. But he spreads socialist and communist propaganda when going by the name “Jose Martin.”
Identifying as “Chepe,” Alcoff advocates for the violent overthrow of the government and for the murder of the rich. He has relished the mainstreaming of Antifa’s militant tactics in the Trump era.
A 2017 book identified Chepe as an organizer behind Smash Racism DC, the Antifa group that mobbed Fox News host Tucker Carlson’s home in November and ran Ted Cruz out of a restaurant in September.
Just want to pause here to note that "works with congressional Democrats as part of his day job" doesn't mean that he works for them or that they were aware of or condoned what he did anonymously. He works for an "advocacy group," I.e., he's a political activist.

Anyway:
Smash Racism DC organizer Jose Martin, also known as “Chepe,” is a radical communist and Antifa leader operating in the U.S. He advocates for the violent overthrow of the government and for the murder of the rich and claims to have international involvement in left-wing movements.

Smash Racism DC is the Antifa group that protested in front of Fox News host Tucker Carlson’s house and berated Sen. Ted Cruz at a restaurant until he and his wife were forced to leave. It’s only one of the Antifa leader’s radical left-wing projects.

But the agitator has made great efforts to separate his fanatical personas from a third identity, his legal name: Joseph “Jose” Alcoff. Under that identity, the 36-year-old has worked as a payday campaign manager for Americans for Financial Reform since 2016, where he advocates for reforms of predatory loans before members of Congress.

Alcoff left nearly no connections between his real identity and Jose Martin and Chepe, but a Daily Caller News Foundation investigation of public records, social media posts, media reports, books, protest videos and podcasts dating back to 2004 found that all three identities are actually one person, posting online from the Twitter handle @Sabokitty.

He has used his Jose Martin identity to make public appearances to promote socialism, once calling for a society without police. But his communist Chepe alias makes his Jose Martin identity seem moderate, using it to advocate for violence to achieve his goal of eliminating capitalism and the U.S. government.
I guess he got doxxed by The Daily Caller. Sure, they aren't publishing his home address, but the internet can do the rest. Once you know his real name and who he works for, the home address is really just a footnote.

Also, he said this:
“We have got to dispense with nonviolence,” he said as Chepe on Radio Dispatch in December 2016 during a discussion on how to approach those he perceives as fascists.

“You have to expose them and you have to expose where they live, their names, what they do for a living,” he added. “Never let them be anonymous, and never just push their rhetoric without directly countering it.”
Now guess what:

DC ‘antifa leader’ is third charged in Marine attack in Philadelphia: report
A third man has been charged after two U.S. Marine Corps reservists were assaulted by an Antifa mob just blocks away from a “We the People” rally in Philadelphia more than two months ago.

Joseph Alcoff, a 37-year-old who is believed to be the Antifa leader in Washington, D.C., was charged earlier this month with aggravated assault, ethnic intimidation and conspiracy – all felonies – and other charges for his involvement in the November 2018 attack, Philly Mag reported.
(aka "Chepe")
He joins codefendants Thomas Massey and Tom Keenan, who were allegedly all part of a large group of left-wing Antifa activists who began beating Alejandro Godinez and Luis Torres after mistaking him them for participants in the “We the People” rally in Old City.

Alcoff had pleaded not guilty and is currently out on bail, the magazine reported.
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Post by Anaxagoras » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:44 am

It gets better:
“Angriest Black Man In America” Takes Case of Man Accused of Attacking Marines
“The question that I have for the D.A.’s office and the police is this: Does anybody think that I, Michael Coard, would represent a racist?” Coard says. “Me. Michael Coard, aka Michael X, aka ‘the angriest black man in America.‘ I would never represent a racist. In fact, if I believed that he was a racist, I would prosecute him myself.”
Irrefutable logic. :lol:
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Jump to 31 mn:



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Post by WildCat » Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:13 am

Witness wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:07 am
Jump to 31 mn:



:mrgreen:
Insanity.
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Post by xouper » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:58 am

WildCat wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:13 am
Insanity.
I watched the whole thing and found it very interesting.

So now I’m curious, what exactly did you find insane?

Please be as specific as you can. Thanks.

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Post by WildCat » Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:46 am

xouper wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:58 am
WildCat wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:13 am
Insanity.
I watched the whole thing and found it very interesting.

So now I’m curious, what exactly did you find insane?

Please be as specific as you can. Thanks.
Just the part he said to watch. Intersectional identity politics is cancer, and textbook-definition racism.
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Post by Giz » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:02 am

I like that (towards the end) she said, “to be intelligent, you should really be helpful “. How true that is. Unfortunately, the rest of the talk contained nothing of use.

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Post by Anaxagoras » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:26 am

Giz wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:02 am
I like that (towards the end) she said, “to be intelligent, you should really be helpful “. How true that is. Unfortunately, the rest of the talk contained nothing of use.
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