2020 Dem presidential candidate speculation thread.

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Re: 2020 Dem presidential candidate speculation thread.

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:29 pm

The only personal dirt that really could hurt Trump with the "base" --

1) He paid for an abortion.
2) Gay stuff.

But if either of those were the case, we'd know by now.

As a real estate guy, pro wrestling impresario, reality show host, all around publicity hound, he'd have had no reason to hide either of those things.
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Re: 2020 Dem presidential candidate speculation thread.

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:36 pm

Democrat Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez melts down after caught in lie about being from the Bronx
Conservative Firing Line (not unbiased, but I believe thus us a genuine exchange of tweets)
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This is just exactly the sort of thing that does not matter at all.

She is from the south Bronx no less than Yankees fan Hillary.
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Re: 2020 Dem presidential candidate speculation thread.

Post by WildCat » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:33 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:47 am
On the bright side, if Dems nominate another loser and we get 4 more years of Trump, maybe they'll wise up.
The problem is it's mostly the energized base that votes in primaries, and they prefer a loony "progressive" that is unelectable nationally.
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Re: 2020 Dem presidential candidate speculation thread.

Post by WildCat » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:34 pm

She was Sandy from Westchester when she was in college.
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Re: 2020 Dem presidential candidate speculation thread.

Post by Giz » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:42 pm

WildCat wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:33 pm
Anaxagoras wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:47 am
On the bright side, if Dems nominate another loser and we get 4 more years of Trump, maybe they'll wise up.
The problem is it's mostly the energized base that votes in primaries, and they prefer a loony "progressive" that is unelectable nationally.
If there’s one thing we should have learnt by now, loony fringe candidates can be elected.

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Re: 2020 Dem presidential candidate speculation thread.

Post by Nyarlathotep » Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:28 pm

ed wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:39 am
Nyarlathotep wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:55 am
Giz wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:26 am
Or, mueller may have something solid.

(Not saying that it’s likely, but there might be enough mud)

There isn’t enough mud. “Enough mud” doesn’t exist. Infinite mud would still be insufficient.

Trump himself pointed out that he could a man on 5th Avenue and it wouldn’t hurt his popularity one bit. He is correct. Mere scandal will not do a thing to him. I have no idea why, but it’s true
Sorta like Bill Clinton raping a woman. Like that?
Not exactly, though likely an extension of the same phenomenon that makes people defend him against those allegations. Clinton, at least, had to ( and still has to) deny he did it. As long as he denies it, his supporters will believe the denials. It's an unfortunate impulse, but at least its one that I understand.

If Trump did something similar he could knock out a tweet the next day admitting to it, bragging about it, and saying she deserved it and he would come out of it up five points in the polls and Hannity would begin arguing that its about time we instituted the custom of primae noctis for the president. THAT kind of behavior is what baffles me. With just about any other president, people are willing to gloss over the bad things that they do. With Trump, the bad things become exactly the things they like about him. It's weird.
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Re: 2020 Dem presidential candidate speculation thread.

Post by corplinx » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:57 pm

I correctly predicted that Liz Warren was airing her DNA test so that later when she ran for president she can pull the old "oh, that's old news" Hillary deflection.

She has announced an exploratory committee.

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Re: 2020 Dem presidential candidate speculation thread.

Post by Doctor X » Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:41 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:28 pm
If Trump did something similar he could knock out a tweet the next day admitting to it, bragging about it, and saying she deserved it and he would come out of it up five points. . . .
No, that would not happen.

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Re: 2020 Dem presidential candidate speculation thread.

Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:40 am

You know, it's a bit unusual for a sitting president to face a primary challenger in his own party, but


Mitt Romney says Trump has failed the presidency character test and that's hurt the United States


Given that the Republican party had nominated him in the past, that seems like a challenge.




It happened to Carter. He survived the primary challenge, but did not win re-election.
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Re: 2020 Dem presidential candidate speculation thread.

Post by corplinx » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:26 pm

Mitt Romney? What a cuck.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:44 pm

IIRC, Mitt's campaign slogan was "Just like Obama, only less". :BigGrin3:

Mitt and such == the reason why Republicans went for Trump.
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Re: 2020 Dem presidential candidate speculation thread.

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:46 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:40 am
It happened to Carter. He survived the primary challenge, but did not win re-election.
I don't think there's any correlation. He ran against Reagan.
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Re: 2020 Dem presidential candidate speculation thread.

Post by Anaxagoras » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:47 am

This probably isn't exactly "news" but it is a recent article about Al Sharpton.

No, he isn't planning to run for president, but he does hope to be a "kingmaker".

Is Al Sharpton's endorsement or non-endorsement really going to sway anyone's vote? :roll:

Al Sharpton’s Bid to Be a 2020 Kingmaker
The civil-rights leader says he’s open to eventually backing Michael Bloomberg or Joe Biden but won’t make a formal endorsement for more than a year.

With a Democratic presidential field that’s bigger and more diverse than ever, and with a Democratic Party struggling with racial issues more than ever—both in grappling with its own history and in response to President Donald Trump—the Reverend Al Sharpton wants to be both kingmaker and validator.

The New York–based civil-rights leader and president of the National Action Network has already been flexing that power behind the scenes. He met with Kirsten Gillibrand and Cory Booker over the weekend. He’s had conversations with Kamala Harris and Terry McAuliffe in recent weeks. And he soon will be scheduling an in-person meeting with Beto O’Rourke.
Some sort of "kiss the ring" thing? :roll:
Next Monday will be the biggest public showcase yet: Michael Bloomberg will join Joe Biden at the Martin Luther King Jr. Day celebration in Washington, D.C., held by Sharpton’s advocacy organization, the National Action Network, while Gillibrand will speak at the group’s event in New York the same day, just after returning from her first trip to Iowa.

The 2020 Democrats’ courting of Sharpton is well under way. He says he expects his endorsement to make a difference when he makes it.

In the meantime, he says, he’s open to eventually backing either Bloomberg, despite the former New York City mayor’s stop-and-frisk policy that was found to have disproportionately harassed young African American men, or Biden, despite the former vice president’s support while he was a senator in the 1990s of a crime bill that included severe penalties that put millions of African Americans behind bars.
Some African American and progressive advocates have called those records disqualifying for Bloomberg and Biden, who are both considering jumping into the presidential race. Sharpton says he doesn’t think they are, and he’ll use his influence to say so.

“I don’t think we’re looking for someone without flaws. I’m looking for someone who can work on an agenda going forward,” Sharpton said in an interview on Monday.
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Re: 2020 Dem presidential candidate speculation thread.

Post by WildCat » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:49 am

Anaxagoras wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:47 am
Is Al Sharpton's endorsement or non-endorsement really going to sway anyone's vote?
Well he did incite 2 anti-Jewish riots that got people killed, so he has street cred among Democrats.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:22 am

Anaxagoras wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:47 am
Is Al Sharpton's endorsement or non-endorsement really going to sway anyone's vote? :roll:
It will promote Al Sharpton. All else is just gravy.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:24 am

WildCat wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:49 am
Anaxagoras wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:47 am
Is Al Sharpton's endorsement or non-endorsement really going to sway anyone's vote?
Well he did incite 2 anti-Jewish riots that got people killed, so he has street cred among Democrats.
Really not until Obama got buddy buddy with him.

Before that not so much.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:33 pm

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