Getting rid of statues etc OTHER THAN Confederates.

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Re: Getting rid of statues etc OTHER THAN Confederates.

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:39 am

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Huh, I guess India really needed the 98 million pounds of international aid that the UK is giving it this year.
For buying fighter planes?
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Re: Getting rid of statues etc OTHER THAN Confederates.

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:33 pm

Not sure if this one belongs here.

On the one hand, historically speaking, not really a Confederate.

On the other hand, he might as fucking well be. :HoppingMad:
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'Racist' Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana (BBC)

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BTW, there's also a statue of him in NYC. :evil:




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Re: Getting rid of statues etc OTHER THAN Confederates.

Post by Giz » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:47 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:33 pm
Not sure if this one belongs here.

On the one hand, historically speaking, not really a Confederate.

On the other hand, he might as fucking well be. :HoppingMad:
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'Racist' Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana (BBC)

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BTW, there's also a statue of him in NYC. :evil:




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Just another racist secessionist

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Re: Getting rid of statues etc OTHER THAN Confederates.

Post by sparks » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:18 pm

You two seem to have some sort of hard on for Gandhi.

Why?

Sure, they're lousy at customer service, but who's any good at that these days? :)
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Re: Getting rid of statues etc OTHER THAN Confederates.

Post by Doctor X » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:26 pm

What has he done for us recently, sparks?

I mean, did he say anything during the Rwandan Genocide or the genocides in Yugoslavia?

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Re: Getting rid of statues etc OTHER THAN Confederates.

Post by Giz » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:36 pm

sparks wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:18 pm
You two seem to have some sort of hard on for Gandhi.

Why?

Sure, they're lousy at customer service, but who's any good at that these days? :)
Gandhi has a pretty good public image for a guy that:

- Thought that blacks had it too good in south Africa
- thought that the moral way for Jews to react to the Holocaust was to commit mass suicide
- tried to convince Indians to back imperial Japan rather than Britain during ww2


But apart from getting it wrong on the defining moral issues of the 20th century (south African race relations, holocaust, ww2) he wasn't all bad. Kinda creepy how he slept with his young aides though.

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Re: Getting rid of statues etc OTHER THAN Confederates.

Post by sparks » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:46 pm

OK, ok. Didn't know that shit about him. Thanks for the update.

Hey, Ben Kingsley didn't have these issues! :) Except for creating an alien/human hybrid of course...
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Re: Getting rid of statues etc OTHER THAN Confederates.

Post by Giz » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:49 pm

I don't want to be too down on him. As mrs Lincoln said, apart from 'that', the play was quite good.

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Re: Getting rid of statues etc OTHER THAN Confederates.

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:15 pm

Giz wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:36 pm
sparks wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:18 pm
You two seem to have some sort of hard on for Gandhi.

Why?

Sure, they're lousy at customer service, but who's any good at that these days? :)
Gandhi has a pretty good public image for a guy that:

- Thought that blacks had it too good in south Africa
- thought that the moral way for Jews to react to the Holocaust was to commit mass suicide
- tried to convince Indians to back imperial Japan rather than Britain during ww2


But apart from getting it wrong on the defining moral issues of the 20th century (south African race relations, holocaust, ww2) he wasn't all bad. Kinda creepy how he slept with his young aides though.
IIRC, one of his gripes against the British (in South Africa) was that they treated Indians like "negroes".
Treating negroes like negroes was OK, see?
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Re: Getting rid of statues etc OTHER THAN Confederates.

Post by Witness » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:19 pm

Giz wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:36 pm
Gandhi has a pretty good public image for a guy that:

- Thought that blacks had it too good in south Africa
- thought that the moral way for Jews to react to the Holocaust was to commit mass suicide
- tried to convince Indians to back imperial Japan rather than Britain during ww2


But apart from getting it wrong on the defining moral issues of the 20th century (south African race relations, holocaust, ww2) he wasn't all bad. Kinda creepy how he slept with his young aides though.
I read also he constantly chewed garlic (to "prolong life"), which should endear him to Abdul. :mrgreen:

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Re: Getting rid of statues etc OTHER THAN Confederates.

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:06 am

Found it online! :coolspecs:

George Orwell's essay on Gandhi written in 1949.

https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-or ... on-gandhi/

Copyrighted and reproduced with permission (at link) so just one little fair use teaser:
... The British Conservatives only became really angry with him when, as in 1942, he was in effect turning his non-violence against a different conqueror. ...
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Re: Getting rid of statues etc OTHER THAN Confederates.

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Re: Getting rid of statues etc OTHER THAN Confederates.

Post by Giz » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:48 am

Is that the Ottoman equivalent of an atta boy?