Another hate crime hoax

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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by corplinx » Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:27 am

that looks real

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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by sparks » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:20 am

Like your moms tits?
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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:45 am

Anaxagoras wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:21 am
Sources via ThatGrapeJuice.net also claim the Empire actor recently received a threatening letter in the mail with “You will die black fag,” written in disturbing ransom-style cutout letters.
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Supposedly the FBI is investigating that one.

Could be federal crime? Sending terroristic threats through the mail? (to himself?)
It's a federal crime if he did it himself.

Maybe they'll find his fingerprints on the glue under the letters.
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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by WildCat » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:11 pm

corplinx wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:27 am
that looks real
It's like the plot of a bad movie. And he was still wearing the "noose" 45 minutes later? Really?
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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:28 pm

An actor I've never heard of, but then I'm totally out of it when in comes to recent popular culture.

Anyone else here heard of hi before, or have seen his work?
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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by WildCat » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:39 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:28 pm
An actor I've never heard of, but then I'm totally out of it when in comes to recent popular culture.

Anyone else here heard of hi before, or have seen his work?
Lots of people have heard of him now, maybe that's the point?
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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:14 pm

WildCat wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:39 pm
Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:28 pm
An actor I've never heard of, but then I'm totally out of it when in comes to recent popular culture.

Anyone else here heard of hi before, or have seen his work?
Lots of people have heard of him now, maybe that's the point?
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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:21 pm

Since this thread is old, thought it would be good to follow up on this previous one:
Pyrrho wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:46 am
What about this one.

http://abc13.com/teen-allegedly-kidnapp ... -/3478056/
A teenage boy was kidnapped from a bus stop Monday afternoon, and was found running away from suspects with torn clothes and no shoes, according to Houston police.

Michelle Lee, the victim's mother, called police when her 13-year-old son Zavion Parker never returned home from school.

As officers were gathering information, Parker was found safe, but had gone through a very traumatic experience.
And here's the answer:

Houston Police: Teen's story about being abducted by white supremacists wasn't true
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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by corplinx » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:30 pm

Just to be clear. Is that a giant penis with hair growing out of the head? I honestly can't tell.

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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:46 pm

corplinx wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:30 pm
Just to be clear. Is that a giant penis with hair growing out of the head? I honestly can't tell.
A crude caricature of Trump. :mrgreen:
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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:05 pm

Here's an overview. The mainstream stories commented upon are all linked.
Also numerous Tweets from various principals.

Shifting Stories Cloud Claims of Alleged Hate Crime Attack Targeting 'Empire' Actor Jussie Smollett
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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:14 pm

DU not 100% "narrative friendly".
Many threads with differing approaches to the story, but here is one in the LGBT separately moderated sub-forum.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/113751586
So a gay star gets beaten up
And here on DU multiple "Progressives" are questioning the story as fishy.

First instinct is to NOT be angry, but question the person who got attacked.



The DU Homophobia is still rampant.
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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:19 pm

corplinx wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:30 pm
Just to be clear. Is that a giant penis with hair growing out of the head? I honestly can't tell.
I wondered the same thing. Looks like it was drawn by a 3 or 4-year old.
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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by corplinx » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:53 pm

I thought DU was fine with physical violence against politically different people.

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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:38 pm

corplinx wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:53 pm
I thought DU was fine with physical violence against politically different people.
As a rule they do not allow it, but it has so massive a base some gets through.
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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by Pyrrho » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:06 am

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/jussi ... ck-police/
Chicago police released surveillance images of two possible persons of interest in the reported attack. | Chicago police
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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:27 am

The two low-quality images appear to show two individuals wearing all black clothing, matching the description of the attackers given to police by Smollett. Police say they were walking on New Street near Illinois Street between 1:30 a.m. to 1:45 a.m. Smollett told officers the attack happened at 2 a.m. about one block away. Not much else can be determined from the photos.
So two people were seen about a block away about 15-30 minutes before the alleged attack.

I doubt they were involved, but if they are never identified it'll be a straw for people who want to believe him to latch on to.
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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:54 am

Not many out on the street at that time in this weather.

"Person of interest" != suspect.

Here's a post over by Second City Cop, everybody's favorite Chicago cop blog.

"Persons of Interest" Photos
http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2019/ ... hotos.html
Following the alleged "attack" on Lower Water Street, nearly twenty detectives scoured nearby businesses and properties for even a single frame of video footage of the "suspects." This is what they found:

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So on the second coldest night of the year, a Hollywood actor, bundled up against -20 degree wind chill, was recognized by two "fans" in the dead of 0200 hours, on Lower Water Street (a known hangout for the seedy underbelly of MAGA supporters?) who happened to be carrying a canister of bleach and a piece of string, just in case they ran across a black, gay, Hollywood actor wrapped up against the elements in a place known more for homelessness than for the star set being seen in public.

Sounds completely believable, especially the part about this being "MAGA country" hours after the first interview and the insistence that body cameras being turned off (for a guy who makes his living in front of cameras) and the seeking of medical attention after (A) turning down an ambulance and (B) heading to the hospital hours later. Our contacts say that the "persons of interest" happened to wander into a camera frame and seem to have had nothing to do with the event in question - but the bosses want to look like they're doing something to appease Rahm and the Hollywood money people - Empire is losing money and viewers - so it's "All Hands on Dicks!"

In other news, another two percentage points were shaved off the clearance rate.
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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:06 pm

More n-dimensional Candyland in Hilbert space.

Wotta friggin' genius of strategery! :cowbell:

Trump condemns attack on Jussie Smollett: 'It doesn't get worse'
The Hill
President TrumpDonald John TrumpSchumer: Past time for Intel leaders to 'stage an intervention' with Trump Venezuelan opposition leader pens op-ed in NY Times urging unity Trump says he has not spoken to Whitaker about end of Mueller probe MORE on Thursday condemned the reported attack on “Empire” actor Jussie Smollett, which is being investigated as a possible hate crime.

“That I can tell you is horrible. It doesn't get worse,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office.

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Re: Another hate crime hoax

Post by Grammatron » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:27 pm

Hey Abdul, what's the word on the Democratic street about Trump's condemnation?