## Attack on Rand Paul

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### Re: Attack on Rand Paul

OK, this just in: The neighbor in question was on hemorrhoid cream at the time. Yep, seems he didn't understand that he was supposed to squirt it up his ass, not eat it.

Source for this extra valuable info? Sorry, can't do that, reporters rights and all that...
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### Re: Attack on Rand Paul

sparks wrote:OK, this just in: The neighbor in question was on hemorrhoid cream at the time. Yep, seems he didn't understand that he was supposed to squirt it up his ass, not eat it.

Source for this extra valuable info? Sorry, can't do that, reporters rights and all that...
Laughs aside, the neighbor in question might need that hemorrhoid creme more than ever. I do not get the low level of judicial protection on this. It's like shooting a cop, but worse.

Whatever.

If it really turns out to be that Rand boned that guys wife, then time served. Anything else and he should spend a decade in prison.

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### Re: Attack on Rand Paul

As far the wife angle, the Daily Mail says he divorced his wife in 2008. 9 years ago.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -home.html
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Anaxagoras wrote:As far the wife angle, the Daily Mail says he divorced his wife in 2008. 9 years ago.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -home.html
what the fuck did you just link to. OMG.

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sparks wrote:According to Sources Close to the Story: The neighbor in question was on hemorrhoid cream at the time. Yep, seems he didn't understand that he was supposed to squirt it up his ass, not eat it.

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### Re: Attack on Rand Paul

Rob Lister wrote:
Anaxagoras wrote:As far the wife angle, the Daily Mail says he divorced his wife in 2008. 9 years ago.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -home.html
what the fuck did you just link to. OMG.

It's an "exclusive".
EXCLUSIVE: 'Socialist' doctor 'assaulted' Kentucky Senator Rand Paul because the congressman's trees were 'in the way' and were 'devaluing his $740,000 home that he is desperately trying to sell' • Rene Boucher, 59, told neighbor Rand Paul that he hadn't been able to sell his house for ten years because of the woodland behind Paul's property • The trees apparently block Boucher's views of the picturesque private lake that forms the centerpiece of their upscale gated community in Bowling Green, KY • DailyMail.com can reveal the two men's lots houses are about 250ft apart, separated by a lawn rather than a wall or fence • Property records confirm Boucher has indeed put his house on the market five times over the past decade without success • Boucher has marketed the property as high as$849,500 but tax assessors say the 7,500 sq ft, two-story home is actually worth $740,000 • 'Rand mowed his own yard. It was always presentable. That's a very lame excuse if that's the one they are choosing to use,' neighbor Dan Renshaw, 70, said • Boycher's lawyer Matt Baker insists there is no political element to the attack and has described the incident as a 'property dispute' The 'socialist' doctor charged with cracking Senator Rand Paul's ribs in a crunching blindside tackle may have harbored a secret grudge against his GOP neighbor for spoiling his lakeside views and 'devaluing' his home, DailyMail.com can reveal. Rene Boucher, 59, told Paul in the wake of the mauling that he hadn't been able to sell his$740,000 house for ten years because the congressman's trees were 'in the way'.

It's believed Boucher was referring to woodland at the back of Paul's property that blocks the doctor's views of the picturesque private lake that forms the centerpiece of their upscale gated community.

Friends say it could explain why the retired anesthesiologist has failed to find a buyer for his five-bedroom, 1.36-acre home which is nonetheless described on property websites as 'overlooking' the desirable water feature.

Boucher's alleged grievance was relayed to the media by another of Paul's neighbors, Alicia Stivers, the first person who saw the bloodied and dazed lawmaker after the November 3 assault in Bowling Green, Kentucky.

Stivers, 54, confirmed that account to DailyMail.com this week but said she was unable to elaborate because the incident is now subject to state and potentially federal charges.

Property records confirm, however, that Democrat-voting Boucher has indeed put his house on the market five times over the past decade without success, at one point becoming embroiled in a messy lawsuit when a prospective buyer pulled the plug at the last minute.

A look at boundary maps and overhead photographs also shows many of the 'offending' trees are on Paul's land - although one realtor pal told DailyMail.com the Boucher property probably didn't sell simply because it was overpriced.

The new clue lends credence to suggestions that Boucher's unruly behavior owes more to a simmering territorial grievance than a political feud, despite the pair's apparent ideological differences.

It also contradicts previous reports that the dust up was down to something as trivial as 54-year-old dad-of-three Paul blowing lawn trimmings into his next-door neighbor's yard.

Boucher, a divorced father-of-two, appeared somber during his court appearance Thursday where he was charged with fourth-degree misdemeanor assault, which carries a possible year-long sentence.

Federal charges and the threat of a ten-year stretch could follow, however, if investigators feel there's evidence Paul was pummeled for political purposes.
Which would explain why his lawyer is insisting that it had nothing to do with politics.
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### Re: Attack on Rand Paul

fact is, political reasons or not, that 10-year sentence is the law. This is up to rand paul to give him a pass. hopefully that guy can suck some mean libertarian cock.

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Wait, this isn't about the anime where giant libertarians roam the earth eating anybody they find, and the last bastion of hope is a dictatorial stronghold with nested fortifications representing class inequality as a commentary on contemporary social affairs?
It's "pea-can", man.

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So . . . Paul was suppose to . . . what . . . take down a ton of his own trees which he might actually enjoy for privacy?

Next time, buy closer to the lake, stupid.

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### Re: Attack on Rand Paul

"I was told by the New York Times that it was okay to punch a Nazi, they just didn't make the enemies list clear enough. Your honor."

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When they came for the Nazis, I . . . no . . . wait . . . that sounds stupid.

Never mind.

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"No one was killed, which means Boucher is safer than Chicago"
It's "pea-can", man.

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Rene Boucher, the 58-year-old Bowling Green man accused of attacking U.S. Sen. Rand Paul at his home in November, has been charged with assaulting a member of congress resulting in personal injury.

The charges – a federal felony – were announced Friday by Josh J. Minkler, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Indiana.

“Assaulting a member of Congress is an offense we take very seriously,” Minkler said. “Those who choose to commit such an act will be held accountable.”

Boucher has signed a plea agreement, according to Minkler's statement. No date has been set for the taking of his guilty plea.
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/n ... 049945001/

A different source [Washington Post] reports prosecutors are recommending 21 months.

Sweet plea deal, I suppose. Better than 10 years.

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Apparently it really was just about yard waste. Or at least that's the story they're going with.
Court documents claim Paul was mowing his yard on Nov. 3 and wearing headphones when Boucher, his neighbor, "had enough" after witnessing Paul stacking brush on a pile near Boucher's property. Boucher ran on to Paul's property and attacked him, the statement reads, resulting in multiple fractured ribs and more medical attention after Paul later contracted pneumonia.

Boucher has admitted to the assault, Minkler said, but has denied it was politically motivated.
If it's politically motivated the penalty would presumably be more severe, but it really doesn't make a whole lot of sense as a politically motivated crime. I mean, it wasn't a well thought-out crime. I guess I'm buying the story.
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Anaxagoras wrote:Apparently it really was just about yard waste. Or at least that's the story they're going with.
Court documents claim Paul was mowing his yard on Nov. 3 and wearing headphones when Boucher, his neighbor, "had enough" after witnessing Paul stacking brush on a pile near Boucher's property. Boucher ran on to Paul's property and attacked him, the statement reads, resulting in multiple fractured ribs and more medical attention after Paul later contracted pneumonia.

Boucher has admitted to the assault, Minkler said, but has denied it was politically motivated.
If it's politically motivated the penalty would presumably be more severe, but it really doesn't make a whole lot of sense as a politically motivated crime. I mean, it wasn't a well thought-out crime. I guess I'm buying the story.
I suppose but I don't see anything in the law about political motivation. I Assume those aforementioned court documents are Boucher's own admission, given they convey his personal state of mind. So it is clear that he did it and now their just dickering on the price.

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I would like to see a law enhancing penalties for politically-motivated violent crimes. Things are getting out of hand, and I'm not talking about this incident.
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The more and more I suspect that he is just a self-important asshole.

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WildCat wrote:I would like to see a law enhancing penalties for politically-motivated violent crimes. Things are getting out of hand, and I'm not talking about this incident.
I'm not sure I want to go down that rabbit hole of deciding whether something with a claimed situational cause was actually politically motivated. Madness seems to lie in that direction.

FWIW, I have similar concerns about most "hate crime" laws.
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### Re: Attack on Rand Paul

Rand Paul should oppose this guy's arrest since only privatized police should be allowed to arrest people. He should also stand up for his neighbor in court by challenging the authority of the court for having an Admiralty Flag.

When the guy gets the death penalty, then Rand can cut the trees down while laughing.

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Doctor X wrote:The more and more I suspect that he is just a self-important asshole.

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