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Post by Grammatron » Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:07 pm

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"Toxic femininity" is bullshit too.

It's women being evil, not a variety of femininity.

Note: Mutatis mutandis for "toxic masculinity". They just hate masculinity as such.
I would argue that "They" hate masculinity in men.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:14 pm

Grammatron wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:07 pm
Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:18 pm
"Toxic femininity" is bullshit too.

It's women being evil, not a variety of femininity.

Note: Mutatis mutandis for "toxic masculinity". They just hate masculinity as such.
I would argue that "They" hate masculinity in men.
I get it. Not masculinity in women. OK.

I think the English language is lacking word that we need.

x :: masculinity <==> effeminacy :: femininity
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Post by Skeeve » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:47 pm

Where is Bill Clinton's #MeToo reckoning?

Good question...
A certain gracefully aging man is earning millions from various media ventures. His most recent book, a thriller co-written with the publishing titan James Patterson, spent weeks atop the New York Times bestseller list over the summer. More than a million copies were sold in North America within two months. Showtime is set to turn the novel into a TV series. Soon, this famous man and his equally famous wife will embark on a 13-city tour across the country.

The eminence grise in question is, of course, former President Bill Clinton. And you might say he is on a roll, except for one nagging concern: He faces several credible allegations of sexual assault.

The stories may be decades old, but they are newly relevant in the #MeToo reckoning.
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Perhaps one reason the renewed scrutiny of 42 hasn’t gained more traction is that a large segment of the American public seems to be under the misconception that all the allegations against Clinton were long ago determined to be false.

Both he and Hillary Clinton have suggested as much.

But the investigation led by Kenneth W. Starr focused on just one set of allegations: the sexual harassment lawsuit brought by former Arkansas state employee Paula Jones.
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But for the most part, Broaddrick’s and Willey’s allegations remained outside of Starr’s purview. Broaddrick appeared in the Starr report only as a footnote in an appendix, where she was referred to as “Jane Doe No. 5.”
And he would have gotten away with it to, if it hadn't been for you meddling kids and that stain on her dress...
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Rose McGowan Says #MeToo is 'Bullshit'
In a new interview with the Sunday Times, Rose McGowan gave her thoughts on the current state of Hollywood in the wake of #MeToo.
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McGowan also said that she isn't invited to #MeToo events, nor does she want to go. “t’s all bullshit. It’s a lie. It’s a Band-Aid lie to make them feel better,” she explained.


:doglaugh:

,,,The Charmed star was one of the first to come forward and accuse Harvey Weinstein of sexual misconduct, but now one of the boldest voices against sexual assault in Hollywood has lost faith in the movement.


So the crazy train has now come full circle....only took about a year.
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Post by Skeeve » Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:21 pm

A Facebook selfie saved this man from spending 99 years in prison
man facing 99 years in prison for a violent crime he didn’t commit was cleared of any wrongdoing, thanks to a Facebook selfie taken by his mom.
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On Sept. 22, 2017, Cedar Park, Texas, resident Christopher “CJ” Precopia, 21, was working at a lumberyard when the Temple County Police Department came to arrest him. CJ’s crime: Breaking into his ex-girlfriend’s home two days prior and attacking her with a box cutter, carving an “X” onto her chest, according to Austin television station KVUE.

CJ was confused — he hadn’t spoken to his ex-girlfriend in two years, having only dated her for six weeks in high school when he was 17 and she was 15, mom Erin Precopia told ABC News. Their breakup was admittedly unfriendly, but the pair remained apart, and CJ didn’t know where she lived.
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However, Erin insisted that her son couldn’t have committed this crime — because they were together on Sept. 20th, 2017, at 7:20 p.m., the time of the alleged attack. Erin had taken CJ to the Renaissance Austin Hotel for an event by the skincare line Rodan & Fields called “Men Tell All.”
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“Upon learning of the information we moved quickly and were able to independently confirm the date and location of where the photo was taken,” wrote Garza. “The photo was posted to Facebook but what we examined was the actual photo that was taken and the data that was created when the photo was taken. When this was confirmed, we acted in dismissing the charges. I have said …. we are always willing to listen and examine new information, and that’s exactly what we did in this case. Currently, charges are under review by law enforcement concerning the individual who reported the allegations, that matter will be reviewed by the Bell County Attorney office.”
If it is determined that it was all drama by the accuser I'm sure that...
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...the proper 'slap on the wrist' will be administered....
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Post by ed » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:16 pm

Don't forget Clinton surragate, spokesperson and apologist James Carville
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January 1996; thought to be a reference to Paula Jones and her charge that President Clinton had sexually assaulted her, but Carville insisted he meant Gennifer Flowers :roll:

Haven't heard an apology yet. Can you imagine what would have ensued if someone in the Trump camp referred to Ford using those precise words?
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Post by Skeeve » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:46 pm

Update: Selfie exonerates man...County considers possible charge against accuser
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Precopia was facing a possible life sentence, but details soon revealed he had a concrete alibi: Precopia was 70 miles away in Austin when the alleged assault occurred.
Yea we know this so...
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The accuser, who has not yet been identified, could now be facing criminal charges, Garza said.

“At the time we submitted our dismissal, we referred law enforcement to present the case at the county attorney’s office. That particular matter is under review,” Garza said.

Temple Police Department spokeswoman Ellen Morton said the agency has referred the false claims case against the accuser to the county attorney’s office.

County Attorney Jim Nichols said a decision on charges will likely be made soon.

Flores said he and his client are considering legal action against the accuser. He said Precopia and his family endured financial and psychological stress over the past year.
Well, if the law does nothing, perhaps they will sue her into the stone age....

It is hard to believe the police went after him on just her say so though, with apparently little or no physical evidence to back her up...
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Post by Skeeve » Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:58 am

next (probably last) update: Selfie clears Central Texas man accused of assaulting ex-girlfriend
WILLIAMSON COUNTY, Texas - A Central Texas man is cleared of charges after a selfie posted to Facebook placed him at a different location from the home where a woman accused him of attacking her with a box cutter.
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According to KVUE, the accuser has not been charged with a crime and Temple Police declined to comment on the handling of the case.
Spoiler:
His ex accused him of an attack that could have meant life in prison. A selfie saved him.
When 21-year-old Christopher Precopia met with a recruiter to enlist in the U.S. Army in October, he was rejected because of the violent offense for which he'd been charged last year.
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in oral and written statements to police, his accuser detailed how Precopia had forced his way into her home, pushing her to the ground before punching her in the face and slicing her with the box-cutter.
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He was given minimal information when police took him into custody, according to his attorney Rick Flores.

When Precopia asked police why he was being arrested, Flores says police told his client, "Don't act like you don't know."
Sounds like "white knight" behavior to me....YMMV.
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"He was very fortunate that she chose a date and time that he just happened to have a rock-solid alibi for," Flores said. "He and I have talked many times about how lucky he is, whether you believe in a higher power or good old-fashioned luck."
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Garza added that the Bell County Attorney's Office will ultimately determine if charges will be made against Precopia's accuser for making a false statement. KVUE reported Tuesday that Precopia's accuser has not been charged with a crime.
And believe it or not, this one even made it to the other side of the pond (with a video).

SAVED BY A SELFIE Man, 21, facing 99 years in prison after ex accuses him of carving X in her chest is cleared by selfie.
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Cops finally dropped the charges against Precopia nine months after his arrest when his lawyer took the alibi evidence - the selfie - to Bell County prosecutors.

His accuser's identity is not being made public because VAGINA she is not being charged with a crime.

She would later admit to Temple police that she reported Precopia because she had a rocky relationship with him several years earlier.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:15 am

Witness wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:49 am
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She thinks she's being snarky, but in fact that is how Vice President Pence approaches it. 8)
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Post by Witness » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:18 am

↑ The (* cough *) Wisdom of the Old Ones©. :twisted:

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Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:34 am

Even in the environmental movement:

Global NGO chief suspended after bullying, inappropriate conduct allegations
Wael Hmaidan is on leave pending investigation of ‘serious complaints’, including from the father of a former Climate Action Network employee who took her own life

The head of an influential climate campaign group has been suspended after allegations of gender-based bullying, discrimination and inappropriate conduct towards female employees.

Executive director Wael Hmaidan was put on leave from Climate Action Network International (Can-I) by the board on Wednesday 7 November, pending an independent investigation into “a number of serious complaints”.

Three letters seen by Climate Home News set out grievances about the organisation’s failure to adequately protect female staff from a range of inappropriate behaviour.

The first, dated 31 October, was sent by the father of former Can-I employee Holly Borday, on the anniversary of her suicide. Robert Borday wrote an open letter to “people working in the climate movement”, urging them to speak out about a workplace culture he said “broke her spirit completely”.

The second, on 5 November, was sent by another former employee to all Can-I board members since 2015. Over eight pages, the complainant detailed allegations against Hmaidan including “touching and overtures which felt inappropriate”, jokes and comments about her appearance and excessive or demeaning work demands.

The third, on 7 November, is signed by 14 former employees and one current Can-I employee. Citing Robert Borday’s letter and “several” complaints from ex-staff, they accused the organisation of failing in its duty of care. They called for “swift and just action” to create a safe working environment.

The allegations in the letters have not been proven and are the subject of an ongoing investigation.
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Post by shuize » Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:19 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
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She thinks she's being snarky, but in fact that is how Vice President Pence approaches it. 8)
Why do I suspect she is also one of the people who criticizes Pence for what is turning out to be a very wise policy?

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Post by shuize » Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:37 pm

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Well, if the law does nothing, perhaps they will sue her into the stone age....
I'm not sure why she wouldn't be charged with false reporting of a crime. Maybe she's mentally ill? Maybe the prosecutors are white knighting?

But not charging her sends the wrong message. People alleging sexual assault need to be heard, but those making demonstrably false claims on such serious charges need to do time.

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Post by Skeeve » Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:41 pm

The media's version of #MeToo is unrecognizable to the movement's founder, Tarana Burke
(CNN)Tarana Burke doesn't recognize #MeToo anymore, or at least the version of it she sees in the media these days.

"Suddenly, a movement to center survivors of sexual violence is being talked about as a vindictive plot against men," Burke said during a TED Talk Wednesday in Palm Springs, California.

Burke started the #MeToo movement more than a decade ago. That was long before it became a hashtag -- and a rallying cry -- for women and men who've survived sexual harassment and assault.

Now, she wants to set the record straight on what #MeToo really is.
Welcome to the world of "entrey-ism" Tarana...a communist tactic that the feminists have been using for while now....

Just ask Erin Pizzey
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Post by Skeeve » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:36 pm

Meanwhile, on the other side of the pond...

Juries have no place in rape trials. They simply can’t be trusted.
The conviction rates for rape have long been shockingly low. This is what has led one Labour MP, Ann Coffey, today to suggest doing away with juries in rape trials.
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Until we do something to reform the system no one has the right to ask women why they didn’t report it before – a question all too often aimed at some of the high-profile women linked to the #MeToo movement.
I pity straight men in the UK....
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Post by Doctor X » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:06 am

The Queefs cut Kareem Hunt. The details of the NFL fucking up yet another case of domestic violence:
Karen Guregian: The Boston Sun

The Chiefs announced they have cut a vital player in their playoff run. They kicked Kareem Hunt to the curb.

Good for them. Why they didn’t dump him back in February is anyone’s guess. Yesterday a surveillance video Even the NFL cannot ignore a video once TMZ makes it public. suddenly emerged showing the Chiefs running back in a rage, shoving and kicking a 19-year-old woman at a Cleveland hotel during a February stay.

["Snip!"--Ed.]

Nothing happened to Hunt back then. No suspension from the Chiefs. No suspension by the league.

Here begins the excuses:

The team released a statement shortly after the NFL announced it has placed Hunt on the Commissioner Exempt list.

“Earlier this year, we were made aware of an incident involving running back Kareem Hunt,” the statement read. “At that time, the National Football League and law enforcement initiated investigations into the issue. As part of our internal discussions with Kareem, several members of our management team spoke directly to him. Kareem was not truthful in those discussions. The video released today confirms that fact. We are releasing Kareem immediately.”

It’s a bit convenient to blame the player. Why didn’t the Chiefs or the NFL investigate the incident a little further? How did both parties not know this video existed? It was a hotel after all.

Naturally, this brought back all the ugliness of the Ray Rice matter, and the graphic hotel elevator video with him and his wife in 2014. The suspicion was the league had seen the video before it was published by TMZ.

["Snip!"--Ed.]

The video shows Hunt forcefully shoving the woman down to the ground, then later kicking her. Others in his party tried to restrain him, but he kept coming back at her.

The incident was investigated by police, and no charges were filed at the time by prosecutors who reportedly had access to the surveillance video from the hotel. Heavens to Betsy.

Chiefs owner and CEO Clark Hunt said in August that he did not believe Kareem Hunt would be suspended, and the whole thing went away — until now.

Now with the video surfacing, it’s opened up a whole new can of worms.

["Snip!"--Ed.]

“The NFL’s investigation, which began immediately following the incident in February, will include a review of the new information that was made public today,” the league announced.

Great. So we’re back to what did they know, and when did they know it? Too busy covering up other teams deflating balls?

Why was Hunt’s behavior found to be acceptable back in February? That’s the real question. Did they just go on what he told them? Because if that’s the case, and the Chiefs and the NFL decided to look sideways, there’s been no progress. The only action came after TMZ exposed an appalling video.

Boston Sun
Another view with even more detail:
Kevin Clark The Ringer

This is not a time to praise the Kansas City Chiefs. Their move to release star running back Kareem Hunt after TMZ published a video of him striking and kicking a 19-year-old woman in a Cleveland hotel in February is surprising only because of the irresponsible way cases involving violent behavior have been handled by NFL teams in recent years.

The Chiefs made the only move that made sense after a violent video of one of their stars dominated the news cycle, releasing on Friday night one of the top running backs in the sport that helped them become one of the top teams in the NFL. It was the essential step in a shameful episode but it will not be the last. This is probably not the end of a scandal because it has a chance to be the start of one — one about a league that apparently hasn’t improved its investigative skills. Friday’s events answered one question: what the Chiefs would do with Hunt. Plenty remain: Why is TMZ still better at obtaining video of NFL players than the league or its teams? What version of events did Hunt actually share with the Chiefs, since the team said in its statement about his release that he was not truthful in his talks with the team? Has the NFL learned anything since a wave of domestic violence scandals first engulfed the sport four years ago? Sadly, we know the answer to that last one.

It is remarkable how many parallels there are to the Ray Rice case, which seemed like it changed everything in 2014, but clearly changed nothing. TMZ obtained video of both incidents, and in both instances the team and league stressed that the video provided new information. (In the Rice case, NFL Media reported that “the Ravens heard a ‘softer’ version of the events included on the videotape.”) In both cases, the NFL said it tried to get the hotel video but was rebuffed.

Neither the NFL nor the Chiefs viewed the Kareem Hunt video before it became public today, per official.

Other info on the case: pic.twitter.com/dch7mbY3Y5
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) December 1, 2018

There’s one more parallel: In both instances, the NFL, which took in around $14 billion last year and can basically put as much money into investigating violent incidents as it wants, looks clueless.

Beyond Hunt, the NFL still has a massive problem on its hands. In the aftermath of the Rice saga, it built a system designed to investigate cases and make sure that TMZ doesn’t do its investigating for the league. Commissioner Roger Goodell hired Lisa Friel, the former head of the sex-crimes unit in the New York District Attorney’s office, to lead investigations. It’s been four years, and TMZ is apparently still the NFL’s best investigator. There were dozens of lessons to learn after the Rice case, but one of them, at the very least, should have been to do everything possible to view the videotape and make decisions off of it, because someone will get it otherwise.

I covered the Rice ordeal closely. I was at the owners meetings in the weeks after the news broke, and talked to owners and league officials throughout. What was surprising was the posture they took in those days, which is to say they knew the NFL could keep their massive television ratings and revenue no matter what scandal hit them. Not just Rice, but any scandal. Goodell has been weakened since 2014 — by Deflategate, by an anthem policy debacle, by a feud with Jerry Jones — but he’s still unlikely to lose his job over any scandal, and that is in large part because no scandal has had much of an impact on the league’s bottom line.

The NFL generates scandal more than any other league. When I ask people in the league office why this is the case, they offer some hollow explanations: There are more players than in other sports, there’s more off time, and other such structural issues. None of that explain why the league office handles problems so poorly, or why they get their information from TMZ. Ratings went up after the domestic violence scandals of 2014, which included domestic violence incidents involving Greg Hardy and Ray McDonald, and a child abuse charge for Adrian Peterson. This is why the league hasn’t improved in this area: Scandals are handled poorly precisely because the league thinks its product is scandal-proof. There were signs the NFL hadn’t learned anything: The league bungled a Josh Brown misdemeanor domestic violence charge that resulted in an initial, inexplicable one-game suspension, with the kicker later being cut and suspended six more games after more and more evidence came out. The Chiefs themselves still employ Tyreek Hill, who pleaded guilty to punching and choking his pregnant girlfriend in 2015 while in college.

["Snip!"--Ed.]

In the short term, that won’t matter. Hunt has been placed on the Commissioner Exempt list, meaning he can’t play, practice, or attend games. Even if a GM gave in to his dumbest impulses, practicality won’t allow it for this season. The NFL said that its investigation began after the February incident and will now include the new information. Even as a cynical observer, I cannot imagine a team signing Hunt this season. He’ll likely be suspended for at least six games, the standard set in 2014 for Rice’s case. That was before the elevator tape came out, but after his initial two-game suspension was deemed too light. Hunt will probably get workouts sometime in 2019. The NFL wants us to believe it’s changed. The league office wants us to believe it’s gotten much better at investigating such scandals. Yet four years after Ray Rice, the only way to know what a player actually did is still to check TMZ.

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Post by Grammatron » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:13 am

Forget the NFL, how the fuck did the prosecutor not file anything from that video?

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Post by Doctor X » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:32 pm

Have not found an answer to that question. Granted, the news is 24-7 George the Younger.

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Post by Pyrrho » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:52 pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46413209
It's a Christmas classic probably being played in shops and radio stations all over the world.

But a radio station in Cleveland, Ohio has decided to remove Baby It's Cold Outside from its playlist following complaints from listeners.

Local media report that listeners said the song was inappropriate and at odds with the #MeToo movement.

But a poll conducted on the station's Facebook page showed the majority of listeners did not want the song banned.
https://star102cleveland.radio.com/blog ... -heres-why

Star 102 Abruptly Stops Playing This Christmas Song. Here's Why

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