#MeTo (TITLE IX edition)

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Re: #MeTo (TITLE IX edition)

Post by gnome » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:38 pm

Misleading headline... while I don't see enough details to evaluate the case being referred to, the person quoted in the headline was not advocating for such a standard, but speaking against it.

I would want to read more before agreeing that the description was an accurate interpretation of the ruling in the case.
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Re: #MeTo (TITLE IX edition)

Post by Doctor X » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:14 pm

Women's March founder Teresa Shook calls on its leaders to step down due to 'antisemitism'

She must be a racist cis-hegemonic Trump supporter.

I also question her commitment to Sparkle Motion.

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Re: #MeTo (TITLE IX edition)

Post by Skeeve » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:29 am

Moving right along we have: Rape charge dropped against USC student after video surfaces
LOS ANGELES, Calif. (FOX 11) - “I was very surprised that these charges would be brought against me because I hadn’t done anything wrong,” says Armaan Premjee, student at University of Southern California.

Premjee was charged with rape in early May after a night out at an off campus bar, but he says security video from the night of April 1st taken from Banditos proves he’s innocent.

“When I saw the videos I was very relieved that there was proof to substantiate my side of the story,” he said.
Funny I thought it was "innocent until proven guilty," WTF is he having to "prove his innocence?"

Okay, here is the attached video...


...
“Hearing the judge give a ruling it made us believe that there is justice truth does come out,” his mother said. “We were fortune to have the kind of evidence to support his innocence.”

But Premjee’s innocence will have to be proven once again -

He said USC’s Office of Equity and Diversity is conducting its own investigation.

“I could get suspended or expelled from the university even though the judge has declared me innocent,” he said.

The businesses major who is going into his junior year said he’s staying optimistic.

He wants to stay in school and finish his degree.

“I’m hopeful that USC will make the right decision,” he said. “USC is not above the law and so I’m hoping USC will dismiss the case.”

USC’s investigation, which is still in process, is required by the federal government and must be independently conducted to its conclusion even when a parallel criminal process has ended.
So now that he is cleared by the police, he STILL has to deal with the TITLE IX kangaroo court hosted by the "Office of Equity and Diversity" (think misandrist feminists and or SJW's)...

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Re: #MeTo (TITLE IX edition)

Post by Skeeve » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:53 pm

Why Does the Department of Education Want to Put Sexual Assault Survivors on Trial?
...
That’s just one reason I’m raising the alarm about the new regulation on Title IX that Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos released last week. If it becomes law, these rules could force millions of student survivors of sexual assault and harassment to endure the same kind of cruel process Blasey Ford did. It's a sham procedure, not to mention one that puts the survivor on trial and gives the benefit of the doubt to the perpetrator, instead of seeking the truth.
Funny, I thought it was to address some of the "due process" concerns that folks (Including RBG) have raised over what has seemed to become a "Kangaroo court" that rolls over the rights of the accused.
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Re: #MeTo (TITLE IX edition)

Post by ed » Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:00 pm

Skeeve wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:53 pm
Why Does the Department of Education Want to Put Sexual Assault Survivors on Trial?
...
That’s just one reason I’m raising the alarm about the new regulation on Title IX that Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos released last week. If it becomes law, these rules could force millions of student survivors of sexual assault and harassment to endure the same kind of cruel process Blasey Ford did. It's a sham procedure, not to mention one that puts the survivor on trial and gives the benefit of the doubt to the perpetrator, instead of seeking the truth.
Funny, I thought it was to address some of the "due process" concerns that folks (Including RBG) have raised over what has seemed to become a "Kangaroo court" that rolls over the rights of the accused.
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Re: #MeTo (TITLE IX edition)

Post by Doctor X » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:04 am

Brandon Browner was just sentenced to 8 years in state prison after pleading no contest to attempted murder ... TMZ Sports has learned.

The former Seattle Seahawks star -- an original member of the famed Legion of Boom defense -- was accused of breaking into his ex-girlfriend's apartment in La Verne, CA on July 8 and allegedly chased her, dragged her and then smothered her in a carpet.
Her two children were present when the alleged abuse occurred.

Browner was also accused of stealing the woman's Rolex watch. He fled the residence but was later arrested and charged with attempted murder and faced life in prison.

On Tuesday, the 34-year-old appeared in court where he pled no contest to 1 count of attempted murder and 2 counts of willful child endangerment. In exchange, the remaining charges (robbery, burglary and false imprisonment) were dropped.

Browner was immediately remanded into custody during the hearing and is back behind bars.

Browner got credit for 300 days for good behavior during the time he's spent behind bars so far. He's been in custody since the arrest back in July.

Browner is a former Pro Bowl cornerback. He won one Super Bowl with the Seahawks and one with the Patriots.

TMZ
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Re: #MeTo (TITLE IX edition)

Post by shuize » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:06 am

Doctor X wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:04 am
Brandon Browner was just sentenced to 8 years in state prison after pleading no contest to attempted murder ... TMZ Sports has learned.

The former Seattle Seahawks star -- an original member of the famed Legion of Boom defense -- was accused of breaking into his ex-girlfriend's apartment in La Verne, CA on July 8 and allegedly chased her, dragged her and then smothered her in a carpet.
Her two children were present when the alleged abuse occurred.

Browner was also accused of stealing the woman's Rolex watch. He fled the residence but was later arrested and charged with attempted murder and faced life in prison.

On Tuesday, the 34-year-old appeared in court where he pled no contest to 1 count of attempted murder and 2 counts of willful child endangerment. In exchange, the remaining charges (robbery, burglary and false imprisonment) were dropped.
Wow. Eight years for attempted murder and 2 counts of willful child endangerment and robbery, burglary, and false imprisonment dropped. His defense attorney got him one hell of a good deal. But if he is anything like my former clients, he's probably still pissed off he had to take a plea at all.

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Re: #MeTo (TITLE IX edition)

Post by ed » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:33 am

Skeeve wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:29 am
Moving right along we have: Rape charge dropped against USC student after video surfaces
LOS ANGELES, Calif. (FOX 11) - “I was very surprised that these charges would be brought against me because I hadn’t done anything wrong,” says Armaan Premjee, student at University of Southern California.

Premjee was charged with rape in early May after a night out at an off campus bar, but he says security video from the night of April 1st taken from Banditos proves he’s innocent.

“When I saw the videos I was very relieved that there was proof to substantiate my side of the story,” he said.
Funny I thought it was "innocent until proven guilty," WTF is he having to "prove his innocence?"

Okay, here is the attached video...


...
“Hearing the judge give a ruling it made us believe that there is justice truth does come out,” his mother said. “We were fortune to have the kind of evidence to support his innocence.”

But Premjee’s innocence will have to be proven once again -

He said USC’s Office of Equity and Diversity is conducting its own investigation.

“I could get suspended or expelled from the university even though the judge has declared me innocent,” he said.

The businesses major who is going into his junior year said he’s staying optimistic.

He wants to stay in school and finish his degree.

“I’m hopeful that USC will make the right decision,” he said. “USC is not above the law and so I’m hoping USC will dismiss the case.”

USC’s investigation, which is still in process, is required by the federal government and must be independently conducted to its conclusion even when a parallel criminal process has ended.
So now that he is cleared by the police, he STILL has to deal with the TITLE IX kangaroo court hosted by the "Office of Equity and Diversity" (think misandrist feminists and or SJW's)...

Thank you Barry (no balls) Obama!!!
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Re: #MeTo (TITLE IX edition)

Post by Doctor X » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:13 pm

shuize wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:06 am
Wow. Eight years for attempted murder and 2 counts of willful child endangerment and robbery, burglary, and false imprisonment dropped. His defense attorney got him one hell of a good deal. But if he is anything like my former clients, he's probably still pissed off he had to take a plea at all.
Reads like he was fucked, knew he was fucked, and, for once, being a "Sport Star" did not get everything ignored. For their part, the prosecution was probably happy they did not have to risk presenting to a jury of his peers.

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Re: #MeTo (TITLE IX edition)

Post by Skeeve » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:02 pm

Meanwhile, back at the OP...
Report: Three-Quarters Of America’s Top Universities Don’t Guarantee Fair Hearings For Students
A new report asserts that among the top 53 universities in the country, as ranked by according to U.S. News & World Report, 73% do not guarantee students they will be presumed to be innocent until they are found guilty.

The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) surveyed the universities, and found a shocking lack of respect for due process. Among their findings were that fact that almost half of the schools did not hold that fact-finders be deemed impartial; 52.8% required that these fact-finders, who often act as the arbiters of the case at hand, be impartial.

Additionally, only 30.2% of the universities assured a hearing in which each party could witness the evidence presented by the opposing party. A whopping 47 of the 53 universities surveyed got a D or F grade from FIRE for at least one disciplinary policy; that meant they did not offer more than 4 of the 10 elements of a fair procedure that FIRE rated. FIRE added, “86.8% of rated universities receive a D or F for protecting the due process rights of students accused of sexual misconduct. Of the 104 policies rated at the 53 schools in the report, not a single policy receives an A grade.”
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Re: #MeTo (TITLE IX edition)

Post by gnome » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:26 pm

That's the kind of information I can work with--thanks!

I get tired of anecdotes.

I did not even know anyone had proposed desired standards for a non-judicial hearing. I'd like to see that idea spread.
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Re: #MeTo (TITLE IX edition)

Post by Doctor X » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:52 pm

Trying to change that means you Hate Women, gnome.

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Re: #MeTo (TITLE IX edition)

Post by Skeeve » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:42 pm

School Pays Male Student $47,000...
A landmark due process case that led to an appeals court ruling that students need to be able to cross-examine their accusers and witnesses against them has come to an end, with the university and the accused student reaching a settlement.
...
This appears to be the first time UC has ever settled with an accused student.

The case arises from an incident involving John Doe and Jane Roe, as they are referred to in court documents reviewed by The Daily Wire, that occurred on September 6, 2015.
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John was not able to question any of Jane’s witnesses or even the campus investigators who put together the “Investigation File” for hearing members.

Without being able to question any of the allegations against him, John was found “responsible” by UC and suspended. He appealed and lost, so he sued the school.

What makes this case so important is that it reached the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals, which created a precedent-setting ruling stating that cross-examination is important, especially when the case boils down to a he said/she said where credibility is at stake. The ruling has been cited multiple times since.
Yea.
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Re: #MeTo (TITLE IX edition)

Post by shuize » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:03 am

I don't know. Since women never lie about rape, "cross-examination" sounds ... "problematic."