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EU needs its own thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:46 pm

Macron urges European army to defend against Russia, US (Agence France-Presse)
French President Emmanuel Macron called Tuesday for a "real European army" as the continent marks a century since the divisions of World War I, to better defend itself against Russia and even the United States.

Macron, who has pushed for a joint EU military force since his arrival in power last year, said Europe needed to reduce its dependence on American might, not least after US President Donald Trump announced he was pulling out of a Cold War-era nuclear treaty.

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Re: EU needs its own thread

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Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:46 pm
Macron urges European army to defend against Russia, US (Agence France-Presse)
French President Emmanuel Macron called Tuesday for a "real European army" as the continent marks a century since the divisions of World War I, to better defend itself against Russia and even the United States.

Macron, who has pushed for a joint EU military force since his arrival in power last year, said Europe needed to reduce its dependence on American might, not least after US President Donald Trump announced he was pulling out of a Cold War-era nuclear treaty.

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Prediction: A very sizable fraction of the recruits will be named "Muhammad".
Bwahahahaha! Who's going to pay for it? They don't even want to pay their NATO committment. And the USA won't be paying for any of this "EU military".
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Re: EU needs its own thread

Post by ed » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:01 pm

say good bye to healthcare for everyone.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:05 pm

The French manage to pay for the Foreign Legion.
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Post by ed » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:34 pm

So?
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:45 pm

Maybe EU army == French Foreign Legion, but everyone in the EU chips in.

Sort of the same way Euro == slightly devalued Deutschemark.
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Post by ed » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:47 pm

Isn't the FFL mostly foreigners?

Sorta like the EU?

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:52 pm

Even though Macron says it's to protect them from the USA (among others) that may just be diplomatic pseudo-even-handedness.

If he's for real, it can only be good for the USA.

If I were French I might be worried about too many guys named Muhammad joining up.
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Post by ed » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:06 pm

Then you'd be a racist. And we know that that's bad.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:22 pm

ed wrote:
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Then you'd be a racist. And we know that that's bad.
I'd be a hypothetical French racist.

The worst kind of all. :P
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Post by Giz » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:10 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:46 pm
Macron urges European army to defend against Russia, US (Agence France-Presse)
French President Emmanuel Macron called Tuesday for a "real European army" as the continent marks a century since the divisions of World War I, to better defend itself against Russia and even the United States.

Macron, who has pushed for a joint EU military force since his arrival in power last year, said Europe needed to reduce its dependence on American might, not least after US President Donald Trump announced he was pulling out of a Cold War-era nuclear treaty.

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Prediction: A very sizable fraction of the recruits will be named "Muhammad".
Great idea. French soldiers, with a German leadership who are dependent on Russia for power (gas). No Brits. And set up to rival, replace NATO. That's going to make them soon much more secure.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:50 pm

Giz wrote:
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Great idea. French soldiers, with a German leadership who are dependent on Russia for power (gas). No Brits. And set up to rival, replace NATO. That's going to make them soon much more secure.
It will keep them out of our hair, and we can stop paying for their defense.

And maybe just maybe, bring the troops home from Europe.
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Re: EU needs its own thread

Post by Witness » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:23 am

Dutch cartoon, "European army":

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:32 am

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Re: EU needs its own thread

Post by Witness » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:36 pm

Yet Another GDPR Disaster: Journalists Ordered To Hand Over Secret Sources Under 'Data Protection' Law

When the GDPR was being debated, we warned that it would be a disaster for free speech. Now that it's been in effect for about six months, we're seeing that play out in all sorts of ways. We've talked about how it was used to disappear public court documents for an ongoing case, and then used to disappear a discussion about that disappearing court document. And we wrote about how it's been used against us to hide a still newsworthy story (and that leaves out one other GDPR demand we've received in an attempt to disappear a story that I can't even talk about yet).

When I wrote about all of this both here on Techdirt and on Twitter, I had a bunch of "data protection experts" in Europe completely freak out at me that I had no idea what I was talking about, and how any negative impact was simply the result of everyone misreading the GDPR. I kept trying to point out to them that even if that's true in theory, out here in the real world, the law was being used to disappear news stories and was creating massive chilling effects and burdens on journalists. And the response was the same: nah, you're reading the law wrong.

And now we have an even more horrifying story of the damage the GDPR is doing to journalism. There's a Romanian investigatory journalism publication called RISE Project that has reported on corruption in Romanian politics. Not surprisingly, not everyone is happy about that. OCCRP -- the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project -- a partner to RISE Project has the worrisome details about how the very Romanian government that RISE Project has been breaking corruption stories on has magically found the need to use the GDPR to demand the journalists turn over their sources.
For the (Romanian, for now) details: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20181 ... -law.shtml

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Post by Skeeve » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:10 am

Smack!
Thank you EU, may I have another?

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Re: EU needs its own thread

Post by WildCat » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:15 pm

Witness wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:36 pm
Yet Another GDPR Disaster: Journalists Ordered To Hand Over Secret Sources Under 'Data Protection' Law
Fake news, the biggest threat to freedom of the press is Trump calling journalists names on Twitter. Just ask any journalist!
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Re: EU needs its own thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:35 pm

Can't they have a common currency and a free trade agreement without that being a bait and switch for all this imperial shit?

Wouldn't it be something if the EU collapsed due to over-expansion to the East, sort like the Nazis in WWII but without all the killing?


Leaving the UK as the only country not fully out of the EU because they are still arguing about how to get out? :notsure:
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Post by Giz » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:38 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:35 pm
Can't they have a common currency and a free trade agreement without that being a bait and switch for all this imperial shit?

Wouldn't it be something if the EU collapsed due to over-expansion to the East, sort like the Nazis in WWII but without all the killing?


Leaving the UK as the only country not fully out of the EU because they are still arguing about how to get out? :notsure:
Think having a common currency would require some political harmonization to work. (A lack of said harmonizing allowed the Greek / German divergence and associated economic crisis)

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:11 pm

Not really.

When Zimbabwe renounced their own currency and adopted the US dollar, all they needed was to have some US dollars on hand.
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