What precisely is wrong with Trump?

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What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by ed » Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:36 pm

I don't particularly like the guy. He seems boorish and vulgar and self obsessed. Not qualities that I look for in a pal. He seems to blend truth and lies and exaggeration and mistakes into one homogeneous mass. Lets call it communication by assertion. Again, not terribly pretty.

All that said, none of those things inspire any particular hatred or loathing. I suspect that many presidents have had those qualities to a greater or lesser extent. LBJ was a vulgar boor, as we are finding out today. Kennedy was a philanderer from a line of philanderers and was the son of a Nazi in all but name. They lived in a different time and the press was respectful of the notion of the presidency if not its actuality. Trump, by that interpretation, is simply more honest. He is who he is and you can take him or leave him. But, again: hatred?

So I ask: what is wrong with the guy? Idiots use the term "racist" the way a Catholic uses holy water when entering a church, or a polite person says "bless you" when even a stranger sneezes. I see absolutely no evidence of racism in him. Am I wrong?

He says stuff that we all know but may not admit to in polite company. But we all know a shithole when we see one, right? Does anyone here know anyone who went to Haiti for any reason other than to run guns or hunt Zombies? Seriously. Think of vacation destinations. Think of your top 10 ... 50 ... 100. Is Haiti anywhere on there? What about Somalia? So you think that the inhabitants of these shitholes really have nothing better to do than to get upset when someone calls their shithole a shithole? Then again, snowflakes know that our dusky brothers really can't think independently and can only be actualized thru the outrage of latte sipping affluent white elites.

I digress. As usual.

So ... what is there to hate about Trump? Be very specific. For example, I would say that Obama deserves opprobrium for his "line in the sand" statement. One might make the argument that his ineptitude and cowardice helped form the mid-east as we have it today. We could discuss that and cite facts and outcomes. That is what I am looking for re. Trump.

I think that it was Sontag who said "style is what distinguishes the lithe movements of the Panther from the gibbering of the Gibbon". (n.b. I would dearly love to find that quote) Trump is the Gibbon. But we don't hate Gibbons for being Gibbons. Right?
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by sparks » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:10 pm

"I see absolutely no evidence of racism in him. Am I wrong?"

Yes.

"Then again, snowflakes know that our dusky brothers really can't think independently ..."

Wow.

"I would say that Obama deserves opprobrium for his "line in the sand" statement. "

Cowardice and ineptitude? Both Clinton and Mango Mussolini agreed with him.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/ ... ine-228585

Don't hate him. He's frankly not worth the energy. And is not fit to be President.
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:12 pm

Aside from what you already said you didn't like about Trump ...

Having been a big New York real estate guy is a negative in my book, and he was a Hillary donor.
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by Anaxagoras » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:22 pm

What precisely is right with him?
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by WildCat » Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:28 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:22 pm
What precisely is right with him?
He's not Hillary and fights the Democratic Party agenda of open borders and eliminating freedoms recognized in the Bill of Rights.
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by Skeeve » Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:39 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:22 pm
What precisely is right with him?
Well, it seems he may be ending our military "involvement" in the middle east...
you know bring the troops home and all that.
Then Skank Of America could start in...

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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by Anaxagoras » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:00 pm

WildCat wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:28 pm
Anaxagoras wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:22 pm
What precisely is right with him?
He's not Hillary and fights the Democratic Party agenda of open borders and eliminating freedoms recognized in the Bill of Rights.
Which president said: "Take the guns first, go through due process second"?
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by corplinx » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:16 pm

Trump keeps the media tied in knots over his personality while normal people get better jobs and better pay.

It's a simple game.

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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by ed » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:21 pm

I see nothing substantive.
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by xouper » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:55 pm

ed wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:36 pm
I see absolutely no evidence of racism in him. Am I wrong?
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:10 pm
Yes.
There is evidence that might lead one to (unjustifiably) infer Trump is a racist, but I have not seen any direct and persuasive evidence. There are many people who know him personally and say he is not a racist. Perhaps it would be helpful if you posted something more than just "Yes".

Prior to Trump running for president, how many times has Jesse Jackson praised Trump for his work with the black community? Why would Jackson do that if he thought Trump was actually a racist?

Also:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-deut ... 17888.html

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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by ed » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:51 pm

Calling a person a "racist" is bullshit. And this is precisely why I started this thread. I have mentioned how some "friends" start off conversations with some angry denunciation of Trump. I ask for evidence and it is like I cast doubt on the Virgin Birth or something.

The media and the entertainment elites have decided that they hate Trump. That litany is what we all hear, day in, day out.

I mean, we've ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia, haven't we? Everybody says so.

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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by sparks » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:27 pm

Racist based on his attitude towards the Mexicans.

And ed, there's no doubt that the Virgin Birth is a bullshit and dangerous myth. :)
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by ed » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:37 pm

sparks wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:27 pm
Racist based on his attitude towards the Mexicans.

And ed, there's no doubt that the Virgin Birth is a bullshit and dangerous myth. :)
his attitude towards the Mexicans
OK. What attitude precisely? What has he done/said to trigger people into denouncing him as a racist?

Remember that bearded fuck in the vape store? He was screaming "racist" about a MAGA hat. What happened to make such an association be other than pathological?

I mean, it's easy to say "racist" but what is the substance behind it? Is anyone who objects to open borders a racist? Are we looking at aa repeated phrase and association that is propaganda or is there more?

Remember Schumer and other democrats were saying the same thing as Trump vis a vis immigration from the southern border not too long ago.
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by sparks » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:39 pm

You can lead them to knowledge, but you can't make them think.

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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by ed » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:41 pm

No image. Summarize it please. And this is the entirety of the national revulsion against Trump?

Please ... summarize, along with in context quotes,
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by sparks » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:42 pm

Sorry, replaced linky with one that works.

And I will not summarize with quotes. Do your own reading dipshit. :)
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by ed » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:58 pm

I had to go to the full posting thing so I could say


:roll:


Thats it? That warrents the hatred and revulsion?
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:10 am

OTOH, he was a helluva good professional wrestling impresario. 8)
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by Giz » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:12 am

ed wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:58 pm
I had to go to the full posting thing so I could say


:roll:


Thats it? That warrents the hatred and revulsion?
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And he called Haiti a shithole, which was insulting to shitholes.

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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by sparks » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:25 am

ed wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:58 pm
I had to go to the full posting thing so I could say


:roll:


Thats it? That warrents the hatred and revulsion?
I have already stated that I don't hate the Fucktard. I simply don't believe he is qualified by temperament and edumacation for the office of POTUS.

So sorry you had to make some extra mouse clicks.



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