What precisely is wrong with Trump?

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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by sparks » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:19 pm

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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by ed » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:28 pm

Good. We got ya now.

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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by Doctor X » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:54 am

Well, Surprise, you know
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by Surprise » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:49 am

ed wrote:
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sparks wrote:
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So, because he was not the compliant lap-dog that was Obama we should care?

Fuck them.

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I'll meet you half way Doc. Fuck our 'allies' who do not recognize the rights of the individual. We could well do without those buttheads as allies.
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:21 pm

Here's a good recent example of something wrong with Trump.

Trump invokes Bighorn and Wounded Knee in latest Pocahontas slur against Sen. Warren
NY Daily News

It never bothered me before about Trump making "Injun" jokes about Warren, but this is seriously different.

Hillary claimed to be "part Jewish" at one point, but Trump didn't respond with jokes about the Warsaw ghetto.

That is just about exactly equivalent.
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by Giz » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:27 pm

Wounded knee is legitimately offensive.

But wasn't bighorn a win for the native Americans? Surely that one isn't a slur? (Be like a brit referencing Waxhaws and Yorktown ).

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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:37 pm

Giz wrote:
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Wounded knee is legitimately offensive.
That one.
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by Giz » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:47 pm

Fwiw, my "but" was not an attempt to minimize Trump's offensiveness, but to note that he was also being illogical.

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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by gnome » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:52 pm

His "logic" was "what are some places where some Indian things happened?"

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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by WildCat » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:25 pm

sparks wrote:
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That is most unfortunate. Any chance for an appeal of this bullshit ruling? BTW--If the EU insists on going down this rat-hole, then yes, fuck 'em.
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by Rob Lister » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:19 pm

Back in 79, I let him bone my sister for $50. He did the boning but never paid.

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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by ed » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:47 pm

Who was paying whom?
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by sparks » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:58 am

WildCat wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:25 pm
sparks wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:48 pm
That is most unfortunate. Any chance for an appeal of this bullshit ruling? BTW--If the EU insists on going down this rat-hole, then yes, fuck 'em.
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:26 pm

Trump is moving the edge of the Earth! :HoppingMad2:










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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by sparks » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:56 pm

Heard he wants to build a wall around it... :)
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by Rob Lister » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:37 pm

Trump showed up at my house a few years ago. He walked in funny, looking all uncomfortable.

"Dude, can I use your bathroom!? I gotta shit!"

I was hesitant. "Well, if you gotta ...," I said hesitantly, what with being hesitant and all.

Twenty minutes later he emerges from the bathroom. There is ugly water creeping from under the door. The smell is horrific. "What the fuck!?" I asked, looking down at the mess.

Trump looked perplexed but answered, "You were almost out of toilet paper so I just used one of your hand towels and it wouldn 't quite flush. Just have one of the maids clean it up. I gotta go. See ya.

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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by gnome » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:57 pm

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One reason I can think of for my own intense emotions about his presidency seem to come from an impression of ignorance, or at least indifference to knowledge that affects national politics, like history and geography, and the same indifference to details in resolving policy decisions. Even the presidents I have disagreed with have seemed to bring a broader base of knowledge to the table and to consider more information when making decisions. Am I mistaken about that impression?

Ignorance plus power frightens me, fear leads to anger, anger leads to .... ok shut up Yoda.
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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by Giz » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:08 pm

It probably comes down to what is more important, basic worldview and axioms, or cognative ability to self-rationalise.

i.e. (to leave trump out of it) who would you feel more comfortable leading the free world?
1) Reagan
2) Obama

One of them has what I would characterize as a better basic worldview (but was probably nowhere near as able in cognition )

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Re: What precisely is wrong with Trump?

Post by ed » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:17 pm

Reagan. Didn't even have to think about it.
Rhe world was a better place when he left the Presidency. It is a fucking dangerous place thanks to Obama. Good intentions do not trump (ha) ability.
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