Tit for Tat (the shutdown thread)

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Re: Tit for Tat (the shutdown thread)

Giz wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:59 am
Assuming that the dems have more furloughed voters than the reps, I wonder if they expect that continuing the pain helps rally (rile up) their base. Maybe they don't want the shutdown to end. Until 2020.
Democrats care about workers as cannon fodder only.

The so-called shutdown does not put pressure on them other than if they lose the propaganda battle.
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Re: Tit for Tat (the shutdown thread)

Nyarlathotep wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:20 am
No, they want a way out that makes the OTHER side capitulate. Compromise is not in the cards. It's not even a desired goal. They may or may not actually want people to suffer financially but at best they give zero fucks that it is happening.
Nancy Pelosi did say there would be "collateral damage" in that interview at the 92nd Street Y.

You're right about both sides in a general way, but no Republican made an explicit commitment to harming innocent people.

Doesn't prove they are better than the Democrats, only that they still care what other people think of them for some reason.
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Re: Tit for Tat (the shutdown thread)

The dipshits at the top of either (any) side do not give a shit for anyone but themselves. Indeed, anyone who seeks authority over others is incapable of same by the very nature of the thing.

Primates, one and all.

With one distinctive exception: Other primates don't do science in a big way. We do however, with the well deserved result of our upcoming undoing, if you will. At least, all the indicators point to this conclusion.

Climate change. Pandemic. Extinction level asteroid. Nukes. Political ideology. Religious nonsense. It's all the same: Primate sociology. We could've done something about it but we did not.

Too stupid or not quite smart enough? That would be the question.

In the goddamned cold miserable rain.

Those of you with families and children almost without exception (ed ) want a better life for them than you had, yes? And the quest for this will be their demise, in some cases here it already has been. What a waste of human potential. I truthfully deeply grieve these sorts of outcomes.

I me mine and fuck everyone else. Except for Joe Teh Dipshit plumber who's delivering a special piece of pipe to the wife. And Joe Teh dipshit butcher who always brings a really great piece of meat...to the wife. And Joe Teh Dipshit milkman who's extracting some x rated ... milk... from the little waifu.

Must be some kind of a bad dream 'cause we've been so busy making life better for our own by building better ways to end all the other peeps who are doing just what we're doing.

Us. Them. Primate sociology.

How fucking charming. No need to respond to this shitpost of mine, I will read them of course should anyone care to do so, but I will make no replies to them. It is a shitpost after all.
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Re: Tit for Tat (the shutdown thread)

Looks like the government is going to reopen for 3 weeks.
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Re: Tit for Tat (the shutdown thread)

Anaxagoras wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:16 pm
Looks like the government is going to reopen for 3 weeks.
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Re: Tit for Tat (the shutdown thread)

SHOCKING President Trump reaches an URGENT Deal to reopen the Government

Open government for 3 weeks until 2/15.
Back pay to be paid immediatly...

So we shall see if they follow through
Then Skank Of America could start in...

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Re: Tit for Tat (the shutdown thread)

No sooner do the Democrats finish gloating ...

... than Trump comes back with ...

So it's back to playing chicken, though in the meantime federal workers are not being punished for it.

Without attempting to predict the number of iterations of this nonsense that will happen first, I will hazard a prediction that the "state of emergency" is going to happen and that it will be about more than just the wall.
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Re: Tit for Tat (the shutdown thread)

An opinion piece:
Government shutdown exposes a harsh truth: Most Americans are unprepared for the next recession

Almost 60% of Americans have less than $1,000 in savings The government shutdown, the longest in history, comes with a hidden revelation: Millions of Americans are financially unprepared for the next economic downturn. Worse, they are highly vulnerable, with few protections available to them. Ten years after the financial crisis, the economic recovery has left millions behind with little to no savings, and the government shutdown serves as a preview for what will happen once unemployment rises from 50-year lows. Within just a few weeks into the government shutdown, people are struggling to cope. We hear stories about people turning to food banks to feed their families. We hear stories about people who are in dire straits because they can’t get loans. We hear stories about people who can’t pay their mortgages. That’s not even one month into the shutdown. Why do a few weeks without pay turn into a crisis for many families? Simple: Nearly 80% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. That’s a problem when you have little to no savings. In fact, it’s akin to playing financial Russian roulette. And the problem is terrifyingly pervasive. According to a recent GoBankingRates survey, only 21% of Americans have more than$10,000 in savings, with nearly 60% having less than \$1,000 in savings:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/gover ... 2019-01-22

Is the general situation as gloomy as described?

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Re: Tit for Tat (the shutdown thread)

I see that California is withdrawing its national guard away from the border.

Where's my grumpy Sherman / secessionist meme?

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Re: Tit for Tat (the shutdown thread)

Giz wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:05 pm
I see that California is withdrawing its national guard away from the border.

Where's my grumpy Sherman / secessionist meme?
California's withdrawing a 300 of the 400 troops.

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Re: Tit for Tat (the shutdown thread)

Which Trump can reverse with a stroke of a pen.

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Re: Tit for Tat (the shutdown thread)

Not even withdrawing. Relocating to similar tasks.

This whole thing is political theater.