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VPNs

Post by ed » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:11 pm

Anyone use one?
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Re: VPNs

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:24 pm

I have in the past for work.

Do you want general technical information, or are you shopping?
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Re: VPNs

Post by ed » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:35 pm

shopping. My question really revolves around the ease of use.
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Re: VPNs

Post by Rob Lister » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:18 pm

Very easy to use, very hard to trust. Reputation is everything. For the average pirate, most are sufficient unless they're free' never trust a free VPN. For the average drug dealer or terrorist, like Robinson, It's hard to know.

You have to trust they do not save your IP data. You have to trust that with the amount you'd lose if they turned that saved data over. I have no recommendations. I chose not to trust any over them.

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Re: VPNs

Post by ed » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:45 pm

In your own way you are as nihilistic as nyarl.
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Re: VPNs

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:53 pm

Is this just for personal use, or for your business?
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Re: VPNs

Post by ed » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:03 pm

Arrrrr .... Personal ye bilge rat
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Re: VPNs

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:43 pm

Don't really need a VPN.

What I currently do:

Use Slimjet browser (based on Chrome but no phoning home except for updates, and no I didn't just take their word for it).
Incognito mode to avoid leaving traces on own machine.

Use Slimjet browser *not* incognito mode for business like online banking and paying bills, but configured to delete most traces on exit.
AdBlock is built in, only additional addon is No-Script. You will need to work through what scripts to allow when you get started.
A reasonable amount of additional protection is also built in, but I rely mostly on products that run outside the browser.
No-Script configured *not* to operate in incognito mode.

For anything really dodgy that I might visit on rare occasions, I use Tor.
Tor is said to be cracked by the NSA, but otherwise is good enough.

Hell, if the NSA is out to get me they'll nail me without my internet activity.

Also stay away from malicious websites such as Facebook. And no you don't need that free toolbar. :p
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Re: VPNs

Post by Rob Lister » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:13 pm

Your assumed protections are just silly. At best you'll keep the dumber advertisers from tracking your perverted porn preferences.

Every ip you connect to is recorded by your isp. Thus VPN's; your ISP can only record you connecting to them. But then, every ip you connect to from there is recorded by the VPN, even if they say it ain't, you gotta assume they're lying. You can use the 'dark web'--an onion router--but just try to accomplish anything ed wants with that anorexic sized pipe. And I doubt it's any more secure.

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Re: VPNs

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:13 pm

I worked for a federal agency and the idea of the VPN was to protect financial data from being sniffed.
That is information that is not public but not "classified".
But the assumption was a targeted attack on my agency.

As for keeping track of my personal IP traffic history, absent a federal investigation of moi I'd sooner trust my ISP than any of the VPN companies that advertize on various YouTube channels for example.

Tor creates a certain amount of indirection to the site at the other end (onion or not). It's not really about faking out your ISP.

What are you implying about what ed wants?

ed: Rob just told you in effect to put something in the fridge. OK not in so many words.But still.
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Re: VPNs

Post by shemp » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:21 am

ed, downloading 50 gigs of girl-on-donkey porn isn't worth it.
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Re: VPNs

Post by Witness » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:25 am

I fear ed going rogue with his killing machines business. :|

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Re: VPNs

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:40 am

shemp wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:21 am
ed, downloading 50 gigs of copyrighted girl-on-donkey porn isn't worth it.
FTFY 8)
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Re: VPNs

Post by ed » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:01 pm

Dunno. May try it, may not. Am not feeling terribly motivated at the moment.
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Re: VPNs

Post by Witness » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:36 pm

To add to ed's paranoia:
Is Your Browser Safe Against Fingerprinting?

What is a Fingerprint

Modern browsers expose a lot of information via their Javascript API, such as
  • User Agent: Information about the browser being used
  • HTTP Accept header: media type and encoding accepted as a response
  • Browser Plugin Details: The list of plugins / add-ons installed (Later versions of Firefox now block this information, yay!)
  • Time Zone
  • Screen information: size, color depth
  • System Fonts
  • Cookie settings: DNT enabled? Third party cookies enabled?
  • HTML5 Canvas information
  • WebGL information
When combined together, those information provide a unique identifier that is reliable for tracking and that, contrary to cookies, cannot be blocked or removed by the user.
https://medium.com/@gjgd/is-your-browse ... dd795c7c7c for the details & complements.