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Lisa Simpson wrote:
Mr Manifesto wrote:


Blade Runner is my favourite film noir. :D
Several posts up. I've already had my coffee. :D
Yes, he mentions Blade Runner. The one with Harrison Ford shooting Androids.

I mentioned Touch of Evil. The one with Charleton Heston shooting Orson Wells.

Two cups down and I'm still confused, I think someone in the office switched us to decaf and didn't tell me.

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Chitty-Chitty Bang Bang

Well . . . Ian Fleming wrote it. . . .

Flees flying bricks. . . .

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Doctor X wrote:Chitty-Chitty Bang Bang

Well . . . Ian Fleming wrote it. . . .

Flees flying bricks. . . .

--J.D.
Well now that we lost the tone of this thread……

Not long before he died, Robert Mitchum hosted Saturday Night Live. He did a spoof of his own film noir work.

What would happen in the sketch, is that he would stop conversing with the other actors and start doing the narration voice over. The other actors would look at him like he was crazy and ask him why he was talking that way. By the end of the bit, he was excusing himself to stand in a closet and get out the voice over.

It went something like this:

MITCHUM: “She had legs that went all the way up and just would not quit.”

WOMAN: “Why are you talking about me like I am not even here?”

It was funnier than it sounds here.
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Guy Noir wrote:
Doctor X wrote:Chitty-Chitty Bang Bang

Well . . . Ian Fleming wrote it. . . .

Flees flying bricks. . . .

--J.D.
Well now that we lost the tone of this thread……

Not long before he died, Robert Mitchum hosted Saturday Night Live. He did a spoof of his own film noir work.

What would happen in the sketch, is that he would stop conversing with the other actors and start doing the narration voice over. The other actors would look at him like he was crazy and ask him why he was talking that way. By the end of the bit, he was excusing himself to stand in a closet and get out the voice over.

It went something like this:

MITCHUM: “She had legs that went all the way up and just would not quit.”

WOMAN: “Why are you talking about me like I am not even here?”

It was funnier than it sounds here.
They used to do a game like that on "Whose Line is it Anyway?" One actor would step forward and narrate the scene, then a little bit of the scene would play out, then the other actor would step forward and narrate. Once, Colin Mochrie and Ryan Stiles were in search of "The Maltese Burger." Again, funnier than I made it sound.

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Double Indemnity is my fav.

Snake Pit is technically a classic.

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Wow, these lists reminded me of a lot of great movies. Its hard to get most kids to even watch B/W movies--how great that she's actually interested. Here are some of my favorites (sort of grouped):

with Bogart:

The Big Sleep
The Maltese Falcon
The Petrified Forest
Key Largo
To Have and Have Not


by Hitchcock

Niagra (Marilyn Monroe/Joseph Cotten)
Suspicion (Joan Fontaine/Cary Grant)
Notorious (Ingrid Bergman/Cary Grant)
Rebecca (Laurence Olivier/Joan Fontaine)
The Wrong Man (Henry Fonda)


Other--Non Hitchcock/non Bogart--Suspense with Romance:

Laura (Dana Andrews/Gene Tierney)

Suspense and Murder

Double Indemnity (Fred MacMurray/Barbara Stanwyck/Edward G. Robinson)
The Postman Always Rings Twice (Lana Turner/John Garfield)
A Double Life (Ronald Coleman/Shelley Winters)
Sorry, Wrong Number (Barbara Stanwyck)

Unique--not really romance and murder's not a main feature

The Third Man (Joseph Cotten/Orson Wells)
Sunset Boulevard (William Holden/Gloria Swanson

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Laura is not film noir--it is more "film latte." I kept wanting Vincent to slaughter the helplessly bad actors.

A decent modern one is The Man Who Wasn't There.

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Kiss Me Deadly http://imdb.com/title/tt0048261/

also a revisionist take on Raymond Chandler, Altman's The Long Goodbye http://imdb.com/title/tt0070334/ - very nice indeed.
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Doctor X wrote:Laura is not film noir--it is more "film latte." I kept wanting Vincent to slaughter the helplessly bad actors.
Gotta disagree with you there, Doctor X! "Laura" is a great movie, especially for the genre. It has the added benefit of being a genuine mystery, with considerably better story telling and characters than most film noir has.

I do agree that Gene Tierney can't act, but her character doesn't really require a lot of acting skills. And Dana Andrews is good...and you've got to love Clifton Webb's ascerbic classic, "Waldo Lydecker". Plus Price as a foppish gigolo? He and Webb make the movie fun.

Definitely, one of my favorites. :)

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Bah!

Solved the mystery rather quickly. Dana Andrews should have stuck with Rocky Horror! He was like Don Knotts cast as Indiana Jones.

Apparently, Webb suffered because of this character--careerwise--in that is type-cast him. This was based on a commentary given during the movie when I saw it some time ago . . . I have zero desire to suffer through it again. Nevertheless, here is an interesting Biography:
His character in the "Mr. Belvedere" series, beginning with Sitting Pretty in 1948, is said to have been very close to his real life -- he lived with his mother until her death (Noel Coward is said to have said, "It must be tough to be orphaned at seventy-one").
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"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone." – clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far." – Grammatron
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Only somewhat related:

Am I the only one who always wanted to see a noir version of Miracle on 34th St.? Just picture it!

Voice Over: Winters in this city can freeze a man's soul. Not that anyone would notice. I've lived here a long time, and I don't think I've ever met a man with his soul intact. This town can break the best of them.

It had been a long night spent with my best friend, Jack Daniels. I didn't need anyone else. At least I didn't think so until SHE walked in.

She was an uptown dame with legs that wouldn't quit and a little girl that gave cute a whole new meaning. I didn't have the heart to tell her that I wasn't looking to buy a little girl right now. She looked me right in the eye and told me her name was Doris Walker.

Doris: Mr. Gailey, my name is Doris Walker

Gailey (Voice over): Uh...yeah. I already established that.

Gailey (spoken): What can I do for you Ms. Walker?

Gailey (Voice ver): She told me that her husband had taken the big nap about a year ago. Since then, she'd been trying to make things work with the little girl, trying to get her to understand the difference between real and imaginary things. TOugh thing to do in the Big Apple. I still needed to know...

Gailey: Okay, Ms. Walker, how do I fit into the picture?

Doris: I need your help. I need to hire you to help me find someone.

Gailey: Finding people is what I do, Doll. What can you tell me about him?

Doris: Only that he's a fat man who wears a bright red suit and he likes to break into people's homes.
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Might be a fun topic to "Noir" favorites such as The Cat in the Hat, Moby Dick and Our Body, Ourselves. . . .

--J.D.
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Everything is film noir. You just have to look harder in some films than in others to spot the Darkness.

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Indeed.

The Care-Bears Do Las Vegas--Corinthian Style has such dark moments. . . .

--J.D.
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Doctor X wrote:Indeed.

The Care-Bears Do Las Vegas--Corinthian Style has such dark moments. . . .

--J.D.
And here I thought that was some kind of twisted porn.
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Such is good film noir. . . .

--J.D.
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We checked the local movie rental stores, and no one had Casablanca or the Big Sleep. We ended up with Dark Passage, Bogart and Bacall. My daughter said it didn't keep her on the edge of her seat, but she certainly enjoyed it enough to keep going with noir. We saw Casablanca at Best Buy today, though didn't get it. I'm extremely pleased she's opening up to other genres of film than just the typical teenage crap (which she watches as well, but it's a start).
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I highly recommend Night of the Hunter with Robert Mitchum, Charles Laughtons directed this really great example of film noir.

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Aug 27 - Sept 30
Here's a list for the dates above: http://www.tv-now.com/stars/filmnoir.html
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It has already been mentioned but Dark City is definately worth watching even though it's a blend of film noir and sci-fi.