Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Drama queens must check their tiaras at the door.
Nyarlathotep
Posts: 49386
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:50 pm

Re: Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Post by Nyarlathotep »

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Aw heck let's change the subject.

Larry Niven :p
One of my favorites. His prose is a bit dry, but he still tells an interesting story

User avatar
Abdul Alhazred
Posts: 83737
Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:33 pm
Title: Yes, that one.
Location: Chicago

Re: Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Post by Abdul Alhazred »

But he was, like, really a sexist. Right?
Image "If I turn in a sicko, will I get a reward?"

"Yes! A BIG REWARD!" ====> Click here to turn in a sicko
The arc of the moral universe bends towards chaos.
People who believe God or History are on their side provide the chaos.

User avatar
Rob Lister
Posts: 22659
Joined: Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:15 pm
Title: Incipient toppler
Location: Swimming in Lake Ed

Re: Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Post by Rob Lister »

I like niven. I give him small kudos for ringworld and subsequent. Not much else.

Nyarlathotep
Posts: 49386
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:50 pm

Re: Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Post by Nyarlathotep »

Abdul Alhazred wrote:But he was, like, really a sexist. Right?
Never heard anyone ever talk about gender politics in his books. My take is that he was neither particularly sexist nor particularly non-sexist. I do wonder how certain segments of our society would take the fact that in his book the Kzin literally bred the sentience out of their females. Some would see that as MRA/Alt-right utopia. On the other hand, it was portrayed as evidences that the Kzin were basically backwards savages who happened to have spaceships and not a thing to be lionized (see what i did there?). On the other other hand, I am not sure that the second fact would matter to that same segment of society.
Last edited by Nyarlathotep on Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Nyarlathotep
Posts: 49386
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:50 pm

Re: Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Post by Nyarlathotep »

Rob Lister wrote:I like niven. I give him small kudos for ringworld and subsequent. Not much else.
I am more of a fan of his short stories. To me, Ringworld was like an extended travelogue. Like someone's vacation photos in book form.

My favorite full length novel of his is Dream Park

User avatar
Abdul Alhazred
Posts: 83737
Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:33 pm
Title: Yes, that one.
Location: Chicago

Re: Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Post by Abdul Alhazred »

Nyarlathotep wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:But he was, like, really a sexist. Right?
Never heard anyone ever talk about gender politics in his books. ...
Never "heard" such a thing on the 'net, only from someone I know personally. This was some time ago when Niven's stuff was new. Back then I still had conversations with humans and not just you 'bots.

Because Gil Hamilton acts like a 1950s hard boiled detective, even though it's however far in the future.
Image "If I turn in a sicko, will I get a reward?"

"Yes! A BIG REWARD!" ====> Click here to turn in a sicko
The arc of the moral universe bends towards chaos.
People who believe God or History are on their side provide the chaos.

Nyarlathotep
Posts: 49386
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:50 pm

Re: Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Post by Nyarlathotep »

I assumed the 'Noir in Spaaaaaaace' schtick was intentional in exactly the same way that Firefly tried to be a 'Western in Spaaaaaaace'

User avatar
Abdul Alhazred
Posts: 83737
Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:33 pm
Title: Yes, that one.
Location: Chicago

Re: Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Post by Abdul Alhazred »

Nyarlathotep wrote:I assumed the 'Noir in Spaaaaaaace' schtick was intentional in exactly the same way that Firefly tried to be a 'Western in Spaaaaaaace'
Me too, but try and tell that to { redacted }. 8)
Image "If I turn in a sicko, will I get a reward?"

"Yes! A BIG REWARD!" ====> Click here to turn in a sicko
The arc of the moral universe bends towards chaos.
People who believe God or History are on their side provide the chaos.

User avatar
Witness
Posts: 28287
Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm

Re: Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Post by Witness »

Wasn't Jack Vance another sucky one? (I only vaguely remember…)

Nyarlathotep
Posts: 49386
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:50 pm

Re: Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Post by Nyarlathotep »

Witness wrote:Wasn't Jack Vance another sucky one? (I only vaguely remember…)
I have always meant to read him but never have. Allegedly, his work was a big influence on Gary Gygax when he was creating D&D.

User avatar
Captain
Posts: 343
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:47 pm
Title: Captain
Location: On the verandah in the cool breeze.

Re: Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Post by Captain »

gnome wrote:
ed wrote:This is the Arthur C. Clarke sucks thread. Please stay on topic.
Report me. Go on, try it.
One of you boys reported this post. I had to get up off the veranda and set down my cold drink. There's a country mile of road out there to be tarred and cindered...truck'll be backin' up momentarily!
You run one time, you got yourself a set of chains. You run twice you got yourself two sets. You ain't gonna need no third set, 'cause you gonna get your mind right.

User avatar
asthmatic camel
Posts: 19343
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 1:53 pm
Title: Forum commie nun.
Location: Stirring the porridge with my spurtle.

Re: Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Post by asthmatic camel »

2010 sucked.

Really badly.

But... the man had his moments...
Shit happens. The older you get, the more often shit happens. So you have to try not to give a shit even when you do. Because, if you give too many shits, you've created your own shit creek and there's no way out other than swimming through the shit. Oh, and fuck.

Nyarlathotep
Posts: 49386
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:50 pm

Re: Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Post by Nyarlathotep »

asthmatic camel wrote:2010 sucked.

Really badly.
Yeah it did. 2011 did too. And 2012. All the way up to 2017 which so far sucks monumentally.

2018 isn't looking so good either

User avatar
Boss Paul
Posts: 319
Joined: Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:30 am
Title: Boss
Location: Florida Corrections

Re: Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Post by Boss Paul »

Well, you can all feel better getting your dirt outta Boss Kean's ditch!

Except for Asthmatic. He got fried balls. Don't have to worry about him running with them!
Get the wax outta your ears!

You call the Captain "Captain!"

And you call the rest of us "Boss," you hear?!

User avatar
ed
Posts: 38403
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:52 pm
Title: G_D

Re: Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Post by ed »

gnome wrote:
ed wrote:This is the Arthur C. Clarke sucks thread. Please stay on topic.
Report me. Go on, try it.
nah nah nah nah

You got in trouble

Nah nah nah nah
About that stereo

User avatar
Carr
Posts: 163
Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:01 am
Title: Floor Walker
Location: Road Prison 36

Re: Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Post by Carr »

You got a grudge against another man, you fight him Saturday afternoon. Any man playing grab-ass or fighting in the building spends a night in the box!
Any man who don't keep order spends a night in the box!

User avatar
gnome
Posts: 24103
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:40 am
Location: New Port Richey, FL

Re: Arthur C. Clarke sucks, there, I said it

Post by gnome »

Ain't no fighting here. Ed just needs to get outta the way of my shovel faster.
"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little bit more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor. Then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat, and then he beat the crap out of every single one. And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a zoo! (Beat) Unless it's a farm!"
--Soldier, TF2