Lakers vs. Celtics

Grammatron · Post by **Grammatron** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:44 am

Ugly.

ck · Post by ck » Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:47 am

Very ugly, but not that I'm minding at all!

Who's MVP, Pierce or Allen?

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:59 am

At least it was close.

--J.D.

Evolver · Post by **Evolver** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:11 am

Sorry Grammy.

Grammatron · Post by **Grammatron** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:24 am

That was very sad.

However, the next half a decade looks great.

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:31 am

It certainly does look good for the Cs, yes.

--J.D.

P.S. Man, I did not predict THAT.

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:57 am

"I told them defense was important."

Though my favorite is:

--J.D.

izittrue · Post by **izittrue** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:23 am

17th win on the 17th day...hmm it is all about 17
The only thing I said is they would not cut the lead to 10 points...that was with 11 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter.
I don't want to say anything...but...Kobe is not like Mike.

ck · Post by ck » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:50 pm

I don't want to say anything...but...Kobe is not like Mike.

No, he most certainly isn't.

The problem has been that the NBA has so desperately wanted there to be a "next Michael Jordan" and so have touted Kobe to be just that.

There are very few players who are at that level or who approach that level, and Kobe isn't one of them.

Beamstalk · Post by **Beamstalk** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:58 pm

Doctor X wrote:

"I told them defense was important."

Guess he should have taken the advice himself......

Anyway Congrats Celts.

Evolver · Post by **Evolver** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:24 pm

ck wrote:
I don't want to say anything...but...Kobe is not like Mike.
No, he most certainly isn't.

The problem has been that the NBA has so desperately wanted there to be a "next Michael Jordan" and so have touted Kobe to be just that.

There are very few players who are at that level or who approach that level, and Kobe isn't one of them.

LeBron could be in that category, but like Jordan, he needs a good supporting cast to flourish properly.

Grammatron · Post by **Grammatron** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:31 pm

izittrue wrote: I don't want to say anything...but...Kobe is not like Mike.

Well he doesn't have a gambling problem but they do both practice adultery...hmm.

Sure Kobe is not Mike and Mike is not Kobe but so what? He's still one of the best players ever.

Grammatron · Post by **Grammatron** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:32 pm

ck wrote:
I don't want to say anything...but...Kobe is not like Mike.
No, he most certainly isn't.

The problem has been that the NBA has so desperately wanted there to be a "next Michael Jordan" and so have touted Kobe to be just that.

There are very few players who are at that level or who approach that level, and Kobe isn't one of them.

That's only true if you hate Kobe for some reason. So it sounds like a personal problem.

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:39 pm

Actually, that is a fairly objective assessment of Kobe.

Whether or not it is his fault that sportswriters and fans keep raising the "Who is the Next Michael?" question, the answer is it clearly is not Kobe.

His personal problems, his inability to be a team player, et cetera merely compounds the problem.

Does not mean he suddenly "sucks" as a player; he is just not as good as some would like him to be--who is?--nor as he thinks he is.

--J.D.

izittrue · Post by **izittrue** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:52 pm

Grammatron wrote:
Sure Kobe is not Mike and Mike is not Kobe but so what? He's still one of the best players ever.

yes you are correct he is one of the best players...and as Doc x states it's not Kobe's fault that people/sportwriters want him to be the next Mike...
I was just sayin' that he ain't...

Evolver · Post by **Evolver** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:31 pm

The local news sports reported just said that Vegas already has the Lakers as the favorites for next years championship.

Were they watching?

Grammatron · Post by **Grammatron** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:42 pm

Evolver wrote:The local news sports reported just said that Vegas already has the Lakers as the favorites for next years championship.

Were they watching?

They might be piling on Bynum here but he is a huge difference on the court. Also as a young team Lakers just got a crash course on what's needed to get to the Finals AND win it. I could see how they can be favorites next year.

Evolver · Post by **Evolver** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:53 pm

Grammatron wrote: They might be piling on Bynum here but he is a huge difference on the court. Also as a young team Lakers just got a crash course on what's needed to get to the Finals AND win it. I could see how they can be favorites next year.

I dunno. Gasol, Vujo... Vagisil... whatever his name is, and Radmanovic didn't seem to have what it takes. And Kobe doesn't appear to be enough of a leader to draw the team together.

Grammatron · Post by **Grammatron** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:02 pm

Evolver wrote:
Grammatron wrote: They might be piling on Bynum here but he is a huge difference on the court. Also as a young team Lakers just got a crash course on what's needed to get to the Finals AND win it. I could see how they can be favorites next year.
I dunno. Gasol, Vujo... Vagisil... whatever his name is, and Radmanovic didn't seem to have what it takes. And Kobe doesn't appear to be enough of a leader to draw the team together.

Gasol was just not Physical enough for Boston, he needs to hit the gym for a bit. Vujacic is great, but his freshness made him a bit too trigger happy. Radmanovic...well he shoots a good 3 now and then but is useless for everything else. Maybe if he improved his D game he'd be something but as one of my friends put it, "There's nothing Rad about Radmanovic"

Kobe...well Kobe is Kobe and really he didn't do anything bad in the series. I have no worries with the Lakers. No one expected them in the finals this year and now everyone is expecting them to take it all in '09. The future looks bright

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:19 pm

Not as bright as the shine on that trophy the Celtics will win next year. . . .

--J.D.

Grammatron · Post by **Grammatron** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:24 pm

Doctor X wrote:Not as bright as the shine on that trophy the Celtics will win next year. . . .

--J.D.

Please, I bet you right now they are not making it to the Finals next year.

ck · Post by ck » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:52 pm

Grammatron wrote:
Doctor X wrote:Not as bright as the shine on that trophy the Celtics will win next year. . . .

--J.D.
Please, I bet you right now they are not making it to the Finals next year.

Pretty sure they're not winning, which is why I was glad they did it this year.

LA has some competition in a number of other young up and coming teams, so it's definitely not a shoe-in for them either.

Grammatron · Post by **Grammatron** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:15 am

ck wrote:
Grammatron wrote:
Doctor X wrote:Not as bright as the shine on that trophy the Celtics will win next year. . . .

--J.D.
Please, I bet you right now they are not making it to the Finals next year.
Pretty sure they're not winning, which is why I was glad they did it this year.

LA has some competition in a number of other young up and coming teams, so it's definitely not a shoe-in for them either.

Assuming everyone stays health, they only team I would worry about is NO, the rest....meh, not impressed.

Evolver · Post by **Evolver** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:18 am

Grammatron wrote:
ck wrote:
Grammatron wrote:
Doctor X wrote:Not as bright as the shine on that trophy the Celtics will win next year. . . .

--J.D.
Please, I bet you right now they are not making it to the Finals next year.
Pretty sure they're not winning, which is why I was glad they did it this year.

LA has some competition in a number of other young up and coming teams, so it's definitely not a shoe-in for them either.
Assuming everyone stays health, they only team I would worry about is NO, the rest....meh, not impressed.

Indeed.

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:13 am

Grammatron wrote:
Doctor X wrote:Not as bright as the shine on that trophy the Celtics will win next year. . . .
Please, I bet you right now they are not making it to the Finals next year.

The Lakers?

I do not know, they could get lucky.

--J.D.

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:38 am

Your coach also has reservations:

"We have to get some players if we're going to come back and repeat, to have that kind of aggressiveness that we need."

--Phil Jackson

"Get some players."

Well . . . I suppose if they can "get some players" the Lakers might have a chance.

--J.D.

Grammatron · Post by **Grammatron** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:52 am

Like I said, I'm willing to make a bet.

How about this: If Celtic make it again and win I'll switch to Mac. If Laker win you switch to Windows

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:55 am

That would be like me proposing if I win I get Nicole Kidman and if you win you get Rosie O'Donnell.

I am all into friendly wagers, but a year is a long time.

--J.D.

Grammatron · Post by **Grammatron** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:59 am

Doctor X wrote:That would be like me proposing if I win I get Nicole Kidman and if you win you get Rosie O'Donnell.

I am all into friendly wagers, but a year is a long time.

--J.D.

The ball is in your court.

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:48 am

Think of a realistic stake.

Probably have to do it like football wagers--one that gets furtherest in the playoffs win. If both teams get eliminated in the same round it is a wash.

--J.D.

Grammatron · Post by **Grammatron** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:21 am

Doctor X wrote:Think of a realistic stake.

Probably have to do it like football wagers--one that gets furtherest in the playoffs win. If both teams get eliminated in the same round it is a wash.

--J.D.

I'll be down for that. Lay out your terms and conditions.

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:25 am

Well, my imagination is not too good at this stage; usually the loser has to buy the margarita. The other is forcing the loser to buy the winner's team's hat/t-shirt/thong and forcing him to wear it for a week or something.

Those are kind of hard to do over t3h interw3bs.

So I am open to suggestions.

--J.D.

Grammatron · Post by **Grammatron** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:00 am

Doctor X wrote:Well, my imagination is not too good at this stage; usually the loser has to buy the margarita. The other is forcing the loser to buy the winner's team's hat/t-shirt/thong and forcing him to wear it for a week or something.

Those are kind of hard to do over t3h interw3bs.

So I am open to suggestions.

--J.D.

I think wearing a Laker uniform in Boston is far more dangerous than other way around. See my comment about Hollywood Fans.

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:18 am

I do not know, I know a Cs fan in LA who might disagree. Actually, she lives near Inglewood so . . . there you go.

I do not live in Boston currently so I may look like a bandwagoner no matter who wins!

--J.D.

Evolver · Post by **Evolver** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:07 am

I don't recall this happening in Boston recently. Even to a Yankee fan.

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:22 am

What?

--J. "We've Got an Anti-Vaxxer!!" D.

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