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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

Post by Doctor X » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:30 pm

The problem is people focus on the negative.

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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

Post by Pyrrho » Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:25 pm

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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

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--J.D.
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"Doctor X is just treating you the way he treats everyone--as subhuman crap too dumb to breathe in after you breathe out."--Don
DocX: FTW.--sparks
"Doctor X wins again."--Pyrrho
"Never sorry to make a racist Fucktard cry."--His Humble MagNIfIcence
"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone."--clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far."--Grammatron
"Indeed you are a river to your people.
Shit. That's going to end up in your sig."--Pyrrho
"Try a twelve step program and accept Doctor X as your High Power."--asthmatic camel
"just like Doc X said." --gnome

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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

Post by Pyrrho » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:56 pm

Local news claims that the Browns are considering hiring Condi Rice as head coach.
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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

Post by Anaxagoras » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:29 am

Wut?

Has she ever coached football at any level?
Has any NFL team ever hired a head coach with no prior experience coaching football?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2531 ... aching-job
The Browns would like to interview former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice for the job, a league source told ESPN.
"a league source"
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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

Post by Pyrrho » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:34 am

Anaxagoras wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:29 am
Wut?

Has she ever coached football at any level?
Has any NFL team ever hired a head coach with no prior experience coaching football?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2531 ... aching-job
The Browns would like to interview former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice for the job, a league source told ESPN.
"a league source"
It's not as if having head coaches with prior experience coaching football has made a difference here...
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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

Post by Doctor X » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:18 am

Seth Wickersham: ESPN Senior Writer

IN LATE OCTOBER, owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam summoned all Cleveland Browns employees to the auditorium at team headquarters for a familiar meeting. It was to announce another major shake-up, this time the firing of head coach Hue Jackson.

["Snip!"--Ed.]

Despite the appearance of confidence, the Haslams, overseeing their fifth regime change in six years as owners, were embarrassed to be starting over again, according to confidants. . . . But the Browns had just lost to the Steelers, dropping Jackson's three-year record to 3-36-1, and after constant fighting behind closed doors, Jackson was publicly warring with his offensive coordinator, Todd Haley. So according to people briefed on the meeting, on Oct. 29, Haslam and general manager John Dorsey entered Jackson's office and told him the team was going to move in a different direction.

Jackson asked why he was being fired.

The team quit on you, Dorsey replied.

At the time, four of the eight Browns games had gone to overtime.

"Get the f--- out of my office," Jackson said.

A few hours later in the auditorium, the Haslams tried to bring order to chaos and restore lost faith, projecting optimism. It wasn't a long meeting. Nobody asked any questions. And some employees returned to their desks curious as to why Jimmy and Dee felt the need to hold yet another all-staff gathering after an all-too-predictable change and frustrated that the Haslams seemed unaware they were using the same words -- down to the phrase -- to explain why they made mistakes that have typified their ownership. Again.

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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

Post by Pyrrho » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:37 pm

They're in a rebuilding phase.
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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

Post by RCC: Act II » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:16 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:29 am
Wut?

Has she ever coached football at any level?
Has any NFL team ever hired a head coach with no prior experience coaching football?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2531 ... aching-job
The Browns would like to interview former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice for the job, a league source told ESPN.
"a league source"
Maybe they are just trolling the league w/r/t the Rooney Rule.

The main competitive advantage in American sports is the quality of ownership. Unfortunately, our sports make being a total crap owner almost completely risk free because the price of an individual franchise is tied to the health of the league and the size of the market far, far more than it is the quality of the franchise.

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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

Post by Pyrrho » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:46 am

If Cleveland would just pay for a new stadium, the Browns would win games.
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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

Post by Doctor X » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:18 am

Or if they would just move the team, they would win a Super Bowl.







Too soon?

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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

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--J.D.
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"Doctor X is just treating you the way he treats everyone--as subhuman crap too dumb to breathe in after you breathe out."--Don
DocX: FTW.--sparks
"Doctor X wins again."--Pyrrho
"Never sorry to make a racist Fucktard cry."--His Humble MagNIfIcence
"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone."--clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far."--Grammatron
"Indeed you are a river to your people.
Shit. That's going to end up in your sig."--Pyrrho
"Try a twelve step program and accept Doctor X as your High Power."--asthmatic camel
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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

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"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone."--clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far."--Grammatron
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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:51 am

Source: Browns acquiring OBJ from Giants
The New York Giants have agreed to trade star receiver Odell Beckham Jr. to the Cleveland Browns, a source confirmed to ESPN's Adam Schefter.

The Giants will receive the Browns' first-round pick in 2019 (No. 17 overall), their second third-round pick this year (95th overall) and safety Jabrill Peppers for Beckham, the source said.

Beckham, 26, signed a five-year megadeal with the Giants worth up to $98.5 million less than a year ago. It made him the highest-paid receiver in the NFL at the time and seemed to cement his place on the Giants roster.

But after another disastrous season where the Giants flopped at 5-11 and Beckham had several incidents that angered the team's brass, they decided to move him after paying out $21.5 million for 12 games. The deal also adds another $16 million in dead money to their running total.
I'm not sure what the "dead money" bit means. Something to do with the salary cap maybe? But they get 3 draft picks and a safety in return.
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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

Post by Doctor X » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:08 am

Basically it is money that counts against the cap that you cannot recover, but, yeah, salary cap of the NFL is an arcane business.

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"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone."--clarsct
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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

Post by Grammatron » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:48 am

Anaxagoras wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:51 am
Source: Browns acquiring OBJ from Giants
The New York Giants have agreed to trade star receiver Odell Beckham Jr. to the Cleveland Browns, a source confirmed to ESPN's Adam Schefter.

The Giants will receive the Browns' first-round pick in 2019 (No. 17 overall), their second third-round pick this year (95th overall) and safety Jabrill Peppers for Beckham, the source said.

Beckham, 26, signed a five-year megadeal with the Giants worth up to $98.5 million less than a year ago. It made him the highest-paid receiver in the NFL at the time and seemed to cement his place on the Giants roster.

But after another disastrous season where the Giants flopped at 5-11 and Beckham had several incidents that angered the team's brass, they decided to move him after paying out $21.5 million for 12 games. The deal also adds another $16 million in dead money to their running total.
I'm not sure what the "dead money" bit means. Something to do with the salary cap maybe? But they get 3 draft picks and a safety in return.
Good explanation of NFL salary on reddit
Dead Money: When a player signs a signing bonus, the team can spread that hit out over the length of the deal (up to five years.) So if a player signs a five year contract with $25mm base salary and a $5mm bonus, then every year counts as $6mm against the cap ($25mm/five years = $5mm/year + $5mm bonus / 5 years = $6mm).

But! If the player is cut, or traded, the team (usually) doesn't have to pay the remaining salaries. They do, however, have to account for the signing bonus they already paid. So any remaining "dead money" rolls forward to the year in which the player was cut, and hits the cap that year. So if the above player was cut in his second year, then his second year cap hit -- previously only $6mm -- now increases by $3mm to $9mm, to account for the signing bonus that was being applied to years 3, 4, and 5.

If a player is fully guaranteed, it works the same way. If Kirk Cousins is cut this season, the entirety of his deal hits the Vikings' cap this season.

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Re: More Crushing Disappointment for Cleveland

Post by Doctor X » Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:07 pm

Well, if you are going to use actually evidences, Gram. . . .

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"Doctor X wins again."--Pyrrho
"Never sorry to make a racist Fucktard cry."--His Humble MagNIfIcence
"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone."--clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far."--Grammatron
"Indeed you are a river to your people.
Shit. That's going to end up in your sig."--Pyrrho
"Try a twelve step program and accept Doctor X as your High Power."--asthmatic camel
"just like Doc X said." --gnome

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--J.D.
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"Doctor X is just treating you the way he treats everyone--as subhuman crap too dumb to breathe in after you breathe out."--Don
DocX: FTW.--sparks
"Doctor X wins again."--Pyrrho
"Never sorry to make a racist Fucktard cry."--His Humble MagNIfIcence
"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone."--clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far."--Grammatron
"Indeed you are a river to your people.
Shit. That's going to end up in your sig."--Pyrrho
"Try a twelve step program and accept Doctor X as your High Power."--asthmatic camel
"just like Doc X said." --gnome

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