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One ball. Two peddles. Tons of trouble.

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He is either guilty or innocent.
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Pyrrho wrote:He is either guilty or innocent.
you don't really believe that do you?

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He is either lying or telling the truth...although his last public statements on the matter are classics of equivocation.
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From today's commie, pinko NYT:
Armstrong Aide Talks of Doping and Price Paid
By MARY PILON
Published: October 12, 2012

The job title is soigneur, an elegant sounding name for the person on a professional cycling team who is assigned some unglamorous work: massaging the muscles of the cyclists, laundering their clothes, booking their hotel rooms and preparing their food. Discretion and loyalty are also part of the job.

For Emma O’Reilly, a young, onetime electrician from Dublin, the chance in 1996 to be a soigneur for the United States Postal Service cycling team was an extraordinary opportunity. She had raced some as a teenager in Ireland, and served as an assistant on that country’s national cycling team. But the Postal Service team was a rising power, with its sights set on the Tour de France.

In short order, however, it became clear to Ms. O’Reilly that her tasks with the team would hardly be limited to kneading leg muscles and doing laundry. In an interview this week, Ms. O’Reilly said she became a regular player in the team’s doping program, one that investigators have charged took on its most sinister and far-reaching dimensions with the arrival of Lance Armstrong in 1998. Ms. O’Reilly, then not yet 30, said she wound up transporting doping material across borders, disposing of drugs and syringes when the authorities were lurking, and distributing performance-enhancing substances to the team’s riders whenever they needed them.

Discretion and loyalty, she said she came to understand, were not just valued qualities. They were paramount.

“It was prevalent, but discreet,” Ms. O’Reilly said of the team’s doping. “The drugs were just part and parcel of things. You didn’t analyze it at the time. It was just part of things.”

And so, she said, she once traveled from France to Spain and back to pick up illegal pills for Mr. Armstrong and delivered them to him in a McDonald’s parking lot outside Nice. Another time, she said, she took a package of testosterone and got it in the hands of another rider.

Ms. O’Reilly said she provided ice to the riders who had containers full of doping materials they needed to keep from spoiling. She spoke of using her talents with makeup to disguise bruising on the arms of the riders from needles.

Some of it made her ashamed, she said, and all of it made her anxious. But the truly hard part was to come: talking about it publicly.

“The traumatizing part,” she said in the telephone interview from Manchester, England, “was dealing with telling the truth.”

Ms. O’Reilly first went public in 2003, when she was paid to cooperate on a book, “L.A. Confidentiel: Les Secrets de Lance Armstrong,” that sought to expose Mr. Armstrong as a drug cheat. Mr. Armstrong sued her for libel.

Ms. O’Reilly said Mr. Armstrong demonized her as a prostitute with a drinking problem, and had her hauled into court in England. Ultimately, a legal settlement was reached, and Ms. O’Reilly tried to pick up her life, sometimes talking about Mr. Armstrong and drugs, but to little notice.

Until now. This year Ms. O’Reilly, 42, gave a sworn account of her years with the Postal Service team to American doping investigators. Her testimony, along with that of more than two dozen others, including many of the cyclists Ms. O’Reilly worked with on the team, is at the heart of the United States Anti-Doping Agency’s formal case against Mr. Armstrong, one that seeks to bar him from the sport forever.

“Talking about it made me feel like I was being disloyal in a sense, like I was breaking the code,” Ms. O’Reilly said of her early efforts to blow the whistle on Mr. Armstrong. “Lance tried to make my life a living hell.”

Mr. Armstrong, over many years now, has steadfastly denied doping. Citing what he called a witch hunt by American doping authorities, he declined to defend himself against the formal charges that were made public this week. He has refused to comment on Usada’s case against him — a brief that includes hundreds of pages of accusations, sworn affidavits, medical records, test results and e-mail correspondence.

“I have to admit,” Ms. O’Reilly said, “I didn’t think it would come out with so much detail like this.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/13/sport ... id.html?hp

She accepted loot for participating in a book expose. Taints her, I suppose.

If only the Times would expend 1/100th the effort to deconstruct mr. Obamas policies. <sign> atleast they stick to important like Lance Armstrong.
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(Newser) – Lance Armstrong is leaving his post as chairman of Livestrong, he announced today, in the hopes that he'll take the cloud surrounding his doping allegations with him. "This organization, its mission, and its supporters are incredibly dear to my heart," he said in a statement obtained by the AP. "Today, therefore, to spare the foundation any negative effects as a result of the controversy surrounding my cycling career, I will conclude my chairmanship."

Armstrong has never handled the foundation's day-to-day operations. His duties in guiding the charity's big-picture strategy will be handed over to vice chairman and co-founder Jeff Garvey. "My family and I have devoted our lives to the work of the foundation and that will not change," Armstrong said. "We will remain active advocates for cancer survivors." In another blow for Armstrong, Nike today announced that it was at last terminating its contract with him, "due to the seemingly insurmountable evidence that Lance Armstrong participated in doping and misled Nike for more than a decade."
When I first heard of the allegations, I thought it was sour grapes on the part of his competitors.

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I don't care. Doping should be legal. Players who play by the rules will always be at unfair advantage with players willing to dope.

If Doping were legal, Big Pharma would spend tons more R&D on performance enhancing drugs and the benefits to the disabled, elderly, and people with various muscular conditions could be enormous as new discoveries are made and the drugs are made safer.

Let them Dope, openly.

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corplinx wrote:I don't care. Doping should be legal. Players who play by the rules will always be at unfair advantage with players willing to dope.

If Doping were legal, Big Pharma would spend tons more R&D on performance enhancing drugs and the benefits to the disabled, elderly, and people with various muscular conditions could be enormous as new discoveries are made and the drugs are made safer.

Let them Dope, openly.
Then more people can get cancer like Lance. And professional sports would be as interesting as pro wrestling, I guess redneck hicks would like it.

People with illnesses can alreadey get steroids and such, and it's afar bigger market than the few thousand pro athletes so your argument makes no sense.
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Lance's doping .... I'll never be able to watch "Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story" again.

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EPO ain't cheap, and was originally intended for people with life-threatening illnesses, not for people yearning for a yellow shirt in France. At one time Lance had a legitimate need for EPO.

Dunno what to say about doping with your own blood. As for the rest of it--doping with banned substances, etc., in Lance's case, it's yet another athlete hoist by his own petard.
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I like the performance enhancement bikes though. Bikes with very cleverly designed batteries and motors hidden in the frame tubes and axles. I saw it on the internet so I think it's true.

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There is the kind that have a smaller diameter front wheel, so that the bike is constantly going downhill, thus giving a powerful gravity assist.
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corplinx wrote:If Doping were legal, only lawyers would have dope
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USADA also thinks the Tour titles should not be given to other riders who finished on the podium, such was the level of doping during Armstrong’s era.

The agency said 20 of the 21 riders on the podium in the Tour from 1999 through 2005 have been ‘‘directly tied to likely doping through admissions, sanctions, public investigations’’ or other means. It added that of the 45 riders on the podium between 1996 and 2010, 36 were by cyclists ‘‘similarly tainted by doping.’’

The world’s most famous cyclist could still face further sports sanctions and legal challenges. Armstrong could lose his 2000 Olympic time-trial bronze medal and may be targeted with civil lawsuits from ex-sponsors or even the U.S. government.

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I hope he saved his money.
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If he kept dating Sheryl Crow, he would have saved on toilet paper.

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I have now won the Tour de France as many times as mr Armstrong. Huh go figure.
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izittrue wrote:I have now won the Tour de France as many times as mr Armstrong. Huh go figure.
:D You too? Me too too. Gimme back my yellow jersey. And my bullets.

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izittrue wrote:I have now won the Tour de France as many times as mr Armstrong. Huh go figure.
Have you ridden Sheryl Crow more times?

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I don't dope anymore.
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