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Re: Windows 10

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For me it was the principle of the matter.

Of course, my principles end at the jagged edge of my convenience, which is why I run windows 10 in the first place.

I'm not sure why it even asked made its install obvious. Maybe it didn't. Maybe the process I killed was just the introduction to it.
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Fucking windows how do they work?
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Quick question for you confuser gurus, largely because I'm busy right now and too lazy to investigate myself: If I buy a new laptop, it will obviously come with Win10. Will Win7 Ultimate x64 run on this new fangled hardware that 10 runs on? Unlike Listy, I don't tolerate Win10 and if/when I buy a new laptop, I'm gonna try to simply move the new SSD drive from the old box to the new box, let it recognize the new hardware, etc. Or I may buy the new laptop with an SSD and wipe 10 and install 7. (I think I have one more install left on my 7 disk) That'll allow me to retire the old laptop to home service through the flatscreen/stereo for music and vids.

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Re: Windows 10

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sparks wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:11 pm Quick question for you confuser gurus, largely because I'm busy right now and too lazy to investigate myself: If I buy a new laptop, it will obviously come with Win10. Will Win7 Ultimate x64 run on this new fangled hardware that 10 runs on?Unlike Listy, I don't tolerate Win10 and if/when I buy a new laptop, I'm gonna try to simply move the new SSD drive from the old box to the new box,let it recognize the new hardware, etc. Or I may buy the new laptop with an SSD and wipe 10 and install 7. (I think I have one more install left on my 7 disk) That'll allow me to retire the old laptop to home service through the flatscreen/stereo for music and vids.

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Well, maybe. I'm not x-pert enough but I'll guess thatwin7 will install finebut some of your brand new on-board accessories (wifi, sound, bluetooth, graphics, etc)may not have win7 drivers. Even then you can probably kludge together a solution.

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"may not have Win7 drivers."

Damned good point. Even more so now that Microsoft no longer supports 7. Thanks!

Next question would be: Has anyone figured out how to blow out and shut the hell off all the fucking bloatware in 10 such that it won't come back on the next update? 10 would be acceptable if only it didn't have all that counter productive shit hanging on it.
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Re: Windows 10

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Meseems you already asked that. :notsure:

That's all the "apps" I have on my laptop (could get rid of some, but they don't bother me enough):

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And there are simple Powershell scripts (basically Get_all_appnames / Uninstall_all_that) you could run if an update installs something. But this hasn't happened for quite some time now.
The only things I had to cleanup after an update were:
  • re-disable trackpad;
  • re-enable safe mode as a boot option (but only on my laptop, it doesn't get killed on my desktop :? ).
But then all of Windows is a big bloatware… :mrgreen:
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Had updates, everything went well.

For unknown reasons telemetry was re-enabled on my desktop but not on my laptop. :?
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It seems like only yesterday ... :oldman:

It's been five years since Windows 10 hit: So... how's that working out for you all?
The Register

Read the whole thing, but here's a teaser:
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All but the most tech-savvy of users got this whether or not it was wanted. One reader told us at the time: "On every single one of our machines we said 'No' to the update. We uninstalled the KB that even asks for the update. Yet ... every single one of our machines has downloaded Windows 10 in the background and demanded to install itself."

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Windows 10 is the only OS from Microsoft that has never crashed on any of my window computers
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Not even once

No blue screen of death!
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:54 pm It seems like only yesterday ... :oldman:
I'm impressed how W10 is able to run old programs, at least up to XP, and presumably even older. Only 16 bit stuff has been left by the curbside, which is understandable.
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A strange problem.

I use a very old version of Evernote (in XP compatibility) on my laptop to jot down various snippets and it works like a charm. The need arose to have it also on my desktop, so I installed it and… was graced with a fiery red alert window, "an administrator has disabled this app" &c., and the thingy wouldn't execute.

Dude, I'm the admin here. :x

What I tried and didn't work:
  • right click on the executable, run as admin;
  • launch from a shortcut with admin privilege;
  • ditto with my program launcher + admin option;
  • tweaking permissions for file and program folder;
  • disabling UAC;
  • reinstalling while running the installer as admin.
But these worked:
  • use from built-in admin account;
  • launch from third-party file browser, started as admin;
  • start from admin command prompt/console;
  • start with .bat file run as admin.
So for now I use my prog launcher + admin option to call Evernote through a batch file. Sigh! And I get the UAC alert and have to confirm each time that I really want to do that… :|

What I find weird is that it seems to need an intermediate step to comply.
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Re: Windows 10

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UAC alert?

I unconditionally turned those off on day one.

After all, I got along just fine without during my ten years of Win 98. :oldman:

Maybe someone who never used a computer before needs such hand holding, so I won't say it's all bad. 8)
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:08 pm UAC alert?

I unconditionally turned those off on day one.
You're so brave! :)

But you didn't read all of it. Even with UAC disabled, I get this:

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Never seen that before.
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You need Windows 7. ;)
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:x
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Wait a minute. You haven't given your every day account full admin privileges? :o
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Of course I have. :roll: