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Ooh. Betcha he didn't see that one coming.
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I would have been most worried about the fork
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But in my dotage I pretty much suck at chess
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i suck too, but i've been trying to play.

I got a lucky win here after blundering my queen

https://lichess.org/1tbSvlAjF4qm
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I’m still watching alphazero games

It’s just amazing how that program has changed chess more than any human player

And how it changed machine programming
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He makes this opening look so easy. It's not, but it's a really good one to know if you're a learner. So many clever traps in this opening.
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Nice
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At least skip to 22 minutes in. Unless you want to see the commercials that precede even the commentary.

The actual games begin at around 45 minutes in.
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Live chess



Magnus vs Alireza
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Anaxagoras wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:32 am i suck too, but i've been trying to play.

I got a lucky win here after blundering my queen

https://lichess.org/1tbSvlAjF4qm

After #15 White: Kn x e8, black mates with Q x h2.
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shuize wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:13 am
Anaxagoras wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:32 am i suck too, but i've been trying to play.

I got a lucky win here after blundering my queen

https://lichess.org/1tbSvlAjF4qm

After #15 White: Kn x e8, black mates with Q x h2.
You're right. I missed an easy checkmate. :oops:

I really do suck at this.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:48 am
shuize wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:13 am
Anaxagoras wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:32 am i suck too, but i've been trying to play.

I got a lucky win here after blundering my queen

https://lichess.org/1tbSvlAjF4qm

After #15 White: Kn x e8, black mates with Q x h2.
You're right. I missed an easy checkmate. :oops:

I really do suck at this.

Well, it's speed chess, right?

I've heard stories how street hustlers will cheat by purposely bumping pieces to different squares.

Maybe that's what happened in your game. (Ha! Ha!)

Speaking of speed chess, I started watching "The Queen's Gambit" on Netflix. It's not the worst chess drama ever, but I had to laugh how they have the players moving at blitz speed in international tournaments.

Also, the actress who played the teenaged heroine looked like a girl I dated in high school.
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One thing that made "The Queen's Gambit" better than many chess movies is that they used actual games.

I confirmed this with YouTube.

Ah, YouTube, is there anything you can't do? *




* The answer is "spell." YouTube can't spell bether than the original.
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shuize wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:54 am Speaking of speed chess, I started watching "The Queen's Gambit" on Netflix. It's not the worst chess drama ever, but I had to laugh how they have the players moving at blitz speed in international tournaments.

Also, the actress who played the teenaged heroine looked like a girl I dated in high school.
Dramatic necessity. General audiences don't have the patience to watch classical chess where a player might spend half an hour (or more) considering a move.

I've started watching too, but I'm only on episode 3.

Love how they used to dole out tranquilizers to kids like candy in orphanages in those days. WTF?
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Anaxagoras wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:29 am
shuize wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:54 am Speaking of speed chess, I started watching "The Queen's Gambit" on Netflix. It's not the worst chess drama ever, but I had to laugh how they have the players moving at blitz speed in international tournaments.

Also, the actress who played the teenaged heroine looked like a girl I dated in high school.
Dramatic necessity. General audiences don't have the patience to watch classical chess where a player might spend half an hour (or more) considering a move.

I've started watching too, but I'm only on episode 3.

Love how they used to dole out tranquilizers to kids like candy in orphanages in those days. WTF?

Yes, I understand. But the idea of the players moving faster than they can even finish recording their moves makes me laugh.

According to the silly plot, the tranquilizers are responsible for her chess genius.

So, no downers and she's just pounding erasers together.

Spoiler:

Then again, given the mental illness in her family, maybe she needed the tranquilizers after all.

I also liked how her adoptive family just walked in, picked her out and walked out with her in less than an afternoon.
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shuize wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:54 am
Anaxagoras wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:29 am
shuize wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:54 am Speaking of speed chess, I started watching "The Queen's Gambit" on Netflix. It's not the worst chess drama ever, but I had to laugh how they have the players moving at blitz speed in international tournaments.

Also, the actress who played the teenaged heroine looked like a girl I dated in high school.
Dramatic necessity. General audiences don't have the patience to watch classical chess where a player might spend half an hour (or more) considering a move.

I've started watching too, but I'm only on episode 3.

Love how they used to dole out tranquilizers to kids like candy in orphanages in those days. WTF?

Yes, I understand. But the idea of the players moving faster than they can even finish recording their moves makes me laugh.

According to the silly plot, the tranquilizers are responsible for her chess genius.

So, no downers and she's just pounding erasers together.

Spoiler:

Then again, given the mental illness in her family, maybe she needed the tranquilizers after all.

I also liked how her adoptive family just walked in, picked her out and walked out with her in less than an afternoon.
I finished watching it. Silly confession time: Somehow I had it in my head that this was based on a true story. I'd never heard of Elizabeth Harmon before, but I figured I'd look her up after I finished the series (because I didn't want to read any plot spoilers). Apparently it's based on a novel though. It did start to get weird to me that I hadn't ever heard of her if she had such a brilliant chess career. No wonder: it was all fiction. :lol:
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Anaxagoras wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:20 am I finished watching it. Silly confession time: Somehow I had it in my head that this was based on a true story. I'd never heard of Elizabeth Harmon before, but I figured I'd look her up after I finished the series (because I didn't want to read any plot spoilers). Apparently it's based on a novel though. It did start to get weird to me that I hadn't ever heard of her if she had such a brilliant chess career. No wonder: it was all fiction. :lol:

Don't feel bad. I knew it wasn't a woman, but thought maybe there was some player the story was loosely based on, so I checked, too.

In the drama, they mention Paul Morphy. But I couldn't find any close connection.

Beating the Russians thing, I think was Fisher.

He wrote the only chess book I ever read. I might even still have it.

But he was nutty, too.
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It might be very loosely based on Fischer and Morphy. Both prodigies, both went rather nutty. Morphy was called "the pride and the sorrow of chess". Although he had a law degree, he never was able to make a successful law practice. He retired from chess at the age of 22, even though it was the one thing he was clearly best at.
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I’m just about done watching the Lela Chess zero games
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Anaxagoras wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:20 am
shuize wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:54 am
Anaxagoras wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:29 am
shuize wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:54 am Speaking of speed chess, I started watching "The Queen's Gambit" on Netflix. It's not the worst chess drama ever, but I had to laugh how they have the players moving at blitz speed in international tournaments.

Also, the actress who played the teenaged heroine looked like a girl I dated in high school.
Dramatic necessity. General audiences don't have the patience to watch classical chess where a player might spend half an hour (or more) considering a move.

I've started watching too, but I'm only on episode 3.

Love how they used to dole out tranquilizers to kids like candy in orphanages in those days. WTF?

Yes, I understand. But the idea of the players moving faster than they can even finish recording their moves makes me laugh.

According to the silly plot, the tranquilizers are responsible for her chess genius.

So, no downers and she's just pounding erasers together.

Spoiler:

Then again, given the mental illness in her family, maybe she needed the tranquilizers after all.

I also liked how her adoptive family just walked in, picked her out and walked out with her in less than an afternoon.
I finished watching it. Silly confession time: Somehow I had it in my head that this was based on a true story. I'd never heard of Elizabeth Harmon before, but I figured I'd look her up after I finished the series (because I didn't want to read any plot spoilers). Apparently it's based on a novel though. It did start to get weird to me that I hadn't ever heard of her if she had such a brilliant chess career. No wonder: it was all fiction. :lol:
I read the book back in 1983. It sucked. The depictions of the chess tournaments weren't realistic. It was clearly written by someone (Walter Tevis) who didn't have much chess knowledge.

Trivia: The game is based on the game GM Vassily Ivanchuk vs GM Patrick Wolff, Biel Interzonal 1993. I played against Wolff four times in tournaments, with one win, one draw and two losses, but those games were all before he achieved the Grandmaster title.
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