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"[E]ven if Steve Jobs never returns to Apple, I would not expect a visible, tangible impact on how Apple is executing over the next couple of years," Peterc said.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/41118102


sell.
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and i think he's going home to die

somebody had to say.
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If he does die in the near term, I'll plant an apple tree in his honor.
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Rob Lister wrote:
"[E]ven if Steve Jobs never returns to Apple, I would not expect a visible, tangible impact on how Apple is executing over the next couple of years," Peterc said.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/41118102


sell.
too late.
http://fortunebrainstormtech.files.word ... -37-pm.png

Okay, so the graph makes it look worse than it is.
The stock, which had been sailing along near its all-time high of $360 a share, started to drop at about 1 p.m. Then, at 1:39, it collapsed, falling from $355 to $349 in the space of four minutes.
But I like sensationalism. Plus, it makes me look right!
UPDATE: Stock Tic Toc is attributing the flash crash to rumors that Steve Jobs is back in the hospital. Funny, he was reportedly sighted on the Apple campus last week with a big smile and a spring in his step. And just yesterday, two different people tweeted that he was eating lunch near them at an Indian restaurant in Mountain View.
rumors abound. I'm calling it. No way he's healthy: we know that. He's a goner. With him goes apple.
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Is Jonathan Ive, Apple‘s senior vice president of industrial design, packing his bags and moving back to the UK? Worse, did Apple tell him if he moves back to England he can’t keep working for Apple? That’s what the Times of London is reporting.

According to the Times (behind a paywall) and the Daily Mail, Ive received an option grant in 2008 that’s now worth $30 million, and if he sold that stock, his combined net worth would be $128 million. The designer (called Jony Ive by his friends) has been “at loggerheads” with the Apple board about the amount of time he spends in the UK, where he would like for his two children to go to school, the report notes.

According to the Times, an anonymous pal of Ives was quoted as saying, “unfortunately he is just too valuable to Apple and they told him in no uncertain terms that if he headed back to England he would not be able to sustain his position with them.”
http://mashable.com/2011/02/27/is-apple ... -quitting/

I fully expect, any day now, for apple to announce their latest breakthrough...

http://cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cd ... mputer.jpg
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Strange stuff. Multinationals caring where an employee lives, in the era of telecommuting.
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DrMatt wrote:Strange stuff. Multinationals caring where an employee lives, in the era of telecommuting.
well, it is just a rumor...like jobs having cancer.

:(

but if you subtract the marketing genius of steve and creative genius of ive and you've got accountants running the show (who do most of their work using excel on a pc)[/quote]
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Rob Lister wrote: (who do most of their work using excel on a pc)
:lol:
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Rob Lister wrote:
DrMatt wrote:Strange stuff. Multinationals caring where an employee lives, in the era of telecommuting.
well, it is just a rumor...like jobs having cancer.

:(

but if you subtract the marketing genius of steve and creative genius of ive and you've got accountants running the show (who do most of their work using excel on a pc)
When I wrote that, I didn't realize that there are worse choices for 'running the show' than accountants.
Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak, who stopped working at the Cupertino company in 1987 but remains on the payroll, said during an interview with Reuters that he would consider returning to the firm [apple].

Reuters reports:

"I'd consider it, yeah," the 60-year-old computer engineer said in an interview, when asked whether he would play a more active role if asked.

"There's just an awful lot I know about Apple products and competing products that has some relevance, some meaning. They're my own feelings, though," Wozniak, who currently works at Fusion.io, told Reuters.

He added that he thinks Apple, as it stands today is "unbelievable," though it could potential be more open.

"My thinking is that Apple could be more open and not lose sales," Wozniak said, noting, "I'm sure they're making the right decisions for the right reasons for Apple."
I hear that you can't know Wozniak and not like him. I hear he's the happiest billionaire alive. I wonder if he ever found his car keys.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/0 ... 46917.html
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And it is official

iResign

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... geHeadline
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Coming soon: the iPad IIgs!
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Hey Rob, Oracle of skepticalcommunity, AAPL on the Nasdaq is trading around $390 today. What happened to the colapse you were talking about? I, like millions of others sold my Apple shares on your recommend. :D

Don't fret too much. Like all other analysts, they forget about all of their misses, never talk about it again, like it never happened. Only put your good calls in the brochures for the retail investors. Most of them don't do proper research or DD anyway. :wink:
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Churchill wrote:Hey Rob, Oracle of skepticalcommunity, AAPL on the Nasdaq is trading around $390 today. What happened to the colapse you were talking about? I, like millions of others sold my Apple shares on your recommend. :D

Don't fret too much. Like all other analysts, they forget about all of their misses, never talk about it again, like it never happened. Only put your good calls in the brochures for the retail investors. Most of them don't do proper research or DD anyway. :wink:
Let's see what the stock is like following the next big announcement without Steve.
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Grammatron wrote:
Churchill wrote:Hey Rob, Oracle of skepticalcommunity, AAPL on the Nasdaq is trading around $390 today. What happened to the colapse you were talking about? I, like millions of others sold my Apple shares on your recommend. :D

Don't fret too much. Like all other analysts, they forget about all of their misses, never talk about it again, like it never happened. Only put your good calls in the brochures for the retail investors. Most of them don't do proper research or DD anyway. :wink:
Let's see what the stock is like following the next big announcement without Steve.
8)

in all seriousness, it will be a slow regression, just as it was when they first booted him. had he not come back, AAPL would be an unknown acronym.
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Rob Lister wrote:
Grammatron wrote:
Churchill wrote:Hey Rob, Oracle of skepticalcommunity, AAPL on the Nasdaq is trading around $390 today. What happened to the colapse you were talking about? I, like millions of others sold my Apple shares on your recommend. :D

Don't fret too much. Like all other analysts, they forget about all of their misses, never talk about it again, like it never happened. Only put your good calls in the brochures for the retail investors. Most of them don't do proper research or DD anyway. :wink:
Let's see what the stock is like following the next big announcement without Steve.
8)

in all seriousness, it will be a slow regression, just as it was when they first booted him. had he not come back, AAPL would be an unknown acronym.
Reminds me of a Simpsons episode from 1996
Homer: Now, here are some of your no-name bands. Sonic Youth? Nine Inch
Nails? Hullabalooza?
Clerk: Hullabalooza is a music festival; the greatest music festival of
all time.
Homer: There can only be one truly great festival a lifetime and it's
the "Us Festival".
Clerk: The what festival?
Homer: The "Us Festival"! Geez! It was sponsored by the guy from Apple
Computers.
Clerk: What computers?
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So who is buying stock in the Open Source Foundation?
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/01 ... s_missing/

IPhone 5 prototype lost at bar.

Sounds vaguely farmiliar.
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Anaxagoras wrote:http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/01 ... s_missing/

IPhone 5 prototype lost at bar.

Sounds vaguely farmiliar.
lol
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It's brilliant. Building hype for a product that doesn't exist--for free!
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Saw this over on PZ's blog:

[youtube]FF-tKLISfPE[/youtube]
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Hope you all sold the stock cause he's dead Jim.


PS: Is it too soon to make a joke that the iPhone 4s presentation sucked so much that it killed him?
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Grammatron wrote:Hope you all sold the stock cause he's dead Jim.


PS: Is it too soon to make a joke that the iPhone 4s presentation sucked so much that it killed him?
I suspect the 5 announcement was delayed for this very reason. I find myself oddly sad over this, now that its happened. few people have had a greater impact on a culture.
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What a shame. He only just retired. :(

http://www.apple.com/
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For my 1 year old daughter
A Magazine Is an iPad That Does Not Work.
It will remain so for her whole life.
Steve Jobs has coded part of her OS.
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I thought Apple stock would decline after the death of Steve Jobs, too.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/apple- ... 2012-03-19
The stock has gained about 48% since the first of the year.
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Note to self. Apple stock over $600 per share. Rob recommended to dump at $300 per share. Do the exact opposite of any recommendations to become rich.

2nd note to self. I love old threads where people make specific predictions. :D
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A couple of folks I know who went to Apple at the 2002 AT&T Labs Diaspora have retired as millionaires. And that because Mr. Lister was Rob Wrong.
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http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0 ... tegory=%2F
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Maybe now is the time to dump your Apple stock.

Apple Is the Biggest Company Ever

http://media.ycharts.com/charts/a4fbd03 ... 2b4c02.png




You would have have missed out on a whole lot of upside if you had dumped it on Jan. 18, 2011. It's up about 88% since then.
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I remain bearish nonetheless.

Show me the facts and I still won't believe it.
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Gotta love your persistence, Rob.

CH
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If they keep pissing off Samsung it will end badly for them.

I don't get suing the company that provides a good deal of your parts, including the processor, but Samsung is still profiting from Apple's purchases for now.
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I think they need to work out deals with Google... and Adobe.
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Yeah, because that worked well in the past.

With the Apple victory in California, Samsung's going to renegotiate their contract with Apple. What this means..is that Apple users are going to pay even more for their iThings in the future, that they already pay an arm and a leg for.

Apple is trying to corner the market here and eventually the anti monopoly laws will bite them in the ass.
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Anaxagoras wrote:Maybe now is the time to dump your Apple stock.

Apple Is the Biggest Company Ever
Yeah, that would have been a good time to sell.

http://www.google.com/m/finance?hl=en&t ... h/apple%20

http://www.smeweb.com/index.php?option= ... &Itemid=89
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So were you thinking of selling Apple stock for Bitcoins? :P
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DrMatt wrote:So were you thinking of selling Apple stock for Bitcoins? :P
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUS ... 10zm2g25zv

fairly stable, some volatility, with a steady rise. currently at 11.50
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Rob Lister wrote:
"[E]ven if Steve Jobs never returns to Apple, I would not expect a visible, tangible impact on how Apple is executing over the next couple of years," Peterc said.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/41118102


sell.
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Just sayin'
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Yea, well, Cook has certainly proven a worthy replacement, furshur. And lacking the scary insane side that Jobs sometimes displayed.

I still think they should put Wozniak in charge just for the lolz company goes bankrupt in six weeks