Which they have. Too bad the Cunt is not alive to enjoy 13th place.Doctor X wrote:Really, they should invalidate Joe Paedophile-Protector's wins since 1998.
--J.D.
Which they have. Too bad the Cunt is not alive to enjoy 13th place.Doctor X wrote:Really, they should invalidate Joe Paedophile-Protector's wins since 1998.
The actual penalties will probably amount to the same thing as the death penalty, just not as symbolic. Massive scholarship losses over four years, no bowl or conference championship games, and possibly most importantly the NCAA released all football players to transfer without having to sit out one year. If an exodus starts, it will be interesting if Happy Valley still fills up when they are losing 77-0 to Purdue.Doctor X wrote:Which they have. Too bad the Cunt is not alive to enjoy 13th place.Doctor X wrote:Really, they should invalidate Joe Paedophile-Protector's wins since 1998.
--J.D.
It didn't even occur to me that they could take away wins retroactively.Doctor X wrote:Which they have. Too bad the Cunt is not alive to enjoy 13th place.Doctor X wrote:Really, they should invalidate Joe Paedophile-Protector's wins since 1998.
--J.D.
Emmert also stripped Penn State of its wins between 1998 and 2011, meaning that former coach Joe Paterno is no longer major college football's all-time winningest coach. A total of 111 have been erased from Paterno's previous win total of 409.
Since players get to choose where to go to college, it's hard to imagine many top prospects choosing Penn State anytime soon.RCC wrote:The actual penalties will probably amount to the same thing as the death penalty, just not as symbolic. Massive scholarship losses over four years, no bowl or conference championship games, and possibly most importantly the NCAA released all football players to transfer without having to sit out one year. If an exodus starts, it will be interesting if Happy Valley still fills up when they are losing 77-0 to Purdue.Doctor X wrote:Which they have. Too bad the Cunt is not alive to enjoy 13th place.Doctor X wrote:Really, they should invalidate Joe Paedophile-Protector's wins since 1998.
--J.D.
Particularly with a guarantee that the player will NOT see a bowl game. That is a big strike for a prospect with NFL aspirations. He also knows scouts will take the school far less seriously. As one pundit/guru explained it, the NCAA bent their own rules so that teams picking up these players--who are leaving in droves--will be able to add on the scholarship. In other words, if you are only allowed, say, 20 scholarships, you can add former Penn State players and those who committed without it going against that total. So there is every incentive for other schools to snatch up these players.Anaxagoras wrote:Since players get to choose where to go to college, it's hard to imagine many top prospects choosing Penn State anytime soon.
Dude was actually painted in a mural with a halo? A fucking halo?STATE COLLEGE MURAL (HALO ONLY)
A mural titled “Inspiration” including Paterno and Sandusky and other members of the State College community was painted near campus 12 years ago. After Sandusky was charged, his likeness was painted over. After Paterno died, artist Michael Pilato added a halo, to signify his death, not his holiness. After the release of the Freeh Report, he painted over the halo. He added a large blue ribbon, instead, on Paterno’s lapel symbolizing support for child abuse victims. Sandusky has been convicted and is awaiting sentencing.
[off the cuff]ed wrote:I was wondering about this. Since local law enforcement didn't discharge their duties adequately (harumph), could this be a Federal Civil Rights case? Isn't there a parallel between what happened in the deep south in the 60's and what happened in PA? No one can deny that these kids were denied their civil rights, correct?
Gold.Grammatron wrote:Speaking of terrible jokes about the whole situation.
Equal protection?Cool Hand wrote:[off the cuff]ed wrote:I was wondering about this. Since local law enforcement didn't discharge their duties adequately (harumph), could this be a Federal Civil Rights case? Isn't there a parallel between what happened in the deep south in the 60's and what happened in PA? No one can deny that these kids were denied their civil rights, correct?
Local law enforcement? I thought it was only Penn State University officials who failed to discharge their duty to report the crimes to local law enforcement officials.
To maintain a federal civil rights action under 42 U.S.C. Section 1983, you have to sue the individuals involved and allege and prove they were acting under color of state or local law. Further, you have to allege and prove they deprived you of a right protected by the federal or state constitution or by law. What right is that? The right not to be the victim of a crime? Where in the constitution does it say that the government must protect you from that harm? The Supreme Court has held in case in of civil tort liability actions that generally, law enforcement officials do not owe citizens a duty to protect them from or to prevent crime or criminal activities.
The victims have grounds to sue Sandusky and possibly the other living Penn State officials who had a duty to report the incidents to the local law enforcement authorities, but those are likely to be state tort grounds, such as battery and the intentional infliction of emotional distress. I doubt you could make out a good federal civil rights complaint and have it survive a motion to dismiss or motion for summary judgment. I suspect this belongs in state court as a tort action, not a civil rights case.
CH
--J.D.STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) -- Joe Paterno's family said it planned to appeal the sanctions imposed by the NCAA against Penn State for the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal. The governing body's response: Don't bother.
Family lawyer Wick Sollers in a letter sent Friday to the NCAA said the Paternos would like to appeal the ''enormous damage'' done to Penn State, the community, athletes and the late Hall of Fame coach. He died in January at age 85.
But the NCAA quickly rejected their plan. ''The Penn State sanctions are not subject to appeal,'' spokesman Bob Williams said.
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So, anyone want to bet, is itThis is a request I believe that should be granted.
I know there are a lot of people who believe that Sandusky will received some “prison justice” if he is put in with other inmates.
They did serenade him the other day as if they were waiting for him.
But, we will see how the prison will treat him and if they give him some form of protection even if he doesn’t deserve it.
A: No.Skeeve wrote: So, anyone want to bet, is it
A. Death Wish
B. Clever way to prep for insanity plea to lower sentence time?
C. Other
Persistent delusion is not uncommon among pedophiles criminal defendants in general, especially petty thieves, domestic violence offenders, and convicted felons facing greatly enhanced punishment due to multiple prior convictions.Pyrrho wrote:Persistent delusion is not uncommon among pedophiles.
Fine. Now give them the death penalty in addition to the other penalties. Maybe the Cunts will learn.STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) -- A Penn State trustee cited a need for due process in telling the NCAA on Monday that he intends to appeal college sports governing body's strict sanctions on the university for the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.
Trustee Ryan McCombie said earlier Monday in a letter to fellow board members that he planned to take the action and sought an NCAA hearing. He invited other trustees to join in the appeal.
McCombie's lawyers later sent the NCAA their intent to appeal letter, saying they also represented other trustees.
Several other board members have indicated they will join the appeal, said McCombie's lawyer, Paul Kelly of the Boston-based firm Jackson Lewis. But Kelly did not provide a number or identify the other members, and said he was still gathering names.
Pedophiles? What Pedophiles?!
The Penn State Board should resign based on the grossly incompetent way they handled the NCAA. They gave away the entire store & permanently ruined the school's reputation.
Rather vague critique there. I'd like him to say what he thinks they should have done.Pyrrho wrote:The Donald weighs in:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/iop62l
The Penn State Board should resign based on the grossly incompetent way they handled the NCAA. They gave away the entire store & permanently ruined the school's reputation.
This week, news broke of an astoundingly stupid pro-Ohio State T-shirt making its way around Columbus using the Penn State/Jerry Sandusky child abuse scandal as a way to take a bank-shot jab at Michigan. "I'd rather shower at Penn State," the shirt read, "than cheer for the Wolverines."
Ha! Get it? Because molestation is a funny joke. Go Bucks! O-H-I-O!
All right, it's not like this is in any way sanctioned or approved by the university. To be fair, shirts with the exact same punchline have shown up at both Iowa and LSU, and we'd imagine that those universities (and the vast majority of their fans) are every bit as disgusted and embarrassed by their T-shirts. (LSU has the most to hang its head about; its T-shirt featured the grammatical error of "then" rather than "than," seemingly turning showering and rooting for a rival into items on a to-do list.)
Police Squad beat them to it by decades (sorry, I couldn't find it in English)grayman wrote:Joke is on the Ohio State fans who wear a T-shirt mocking the Penn State sexual abuse scandal
This week, news broke of an astoundingly stupid pro-Ohio State T-shirt making its way around Columbus using the Penn State/Jerry Sandusky child abuse scandal as a way to take a bank-shot jab at Michigan. "I'd rather shower at Penn State," the shirt read, "than cheer for the Wolverines."
Ha! Get it? Because molestation is a funny joke. Go Bucks! O-H-I-O!
All right, it's not like this is in any way sanctioned or approved by the university. To be fair, shirts with the exact same punchline have shown up at both Iowa and LSU, and we'd imagine that those universities (and the vast majority of their fans) are every bit as disgusted and embarrassed by their T-shirts. (LSU has the most to hang its head about; its T-shirt featured the grammatical error of "then" rather than "than," seemingly turning showering and rooting for a rival into items on a to-do list.)
Nah. I grew up in that area and people are absolutely insane about high school football there. It isn't so much the culture covering things up as much as the culture that makes 17 year old kids local celebrities for being able to run fast causing kids to lose all sense of perspective and do stupid shit.Pyrrho wrote:Why it matters:
Rape charges against high school players divide football town of Steubenville, Ohio
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ss ... er_default
Although the news writers may be unnecessarily trying to link this to the football program.
Thirty years before he can even ask for parole.Ronin wrote:And Cuntusky gets 30-60. I hope he lives an especially long life.
I'll take the over on that. Until his appeals are exhausted he is demented enough to still have hope, and the Pennsylvania DOC is likely to be really careful with him given the target on his back.Pyrrho wrote:He'll be dead in a year.
--J.D.By MARK SCOLFORO (Associated Press) | The Associated Press:
Ex-Penn St. president charged in Sandusky case
The ''conspiracy of silence'' that protected Jerry Sandusky extended all the way to the top at Penn State, prosecutors said Thursday as they charged former university President Graham Spanier with hushing up child sexual abuse allegations against the former assistant football coach.
Prosecutors also added counts against two of Spanier's former underlings, Tim Curley and Gary Schultz, who were already charged with lying to a grand jury.
''This was not a mistake by these men. This was not an oversight. It was not misjudgment on their part,'' said state Attorney General Linda Kelly. ''This was a conspiracy of silence by top officials to actively conceal the truth.''
. . . .
The grand jury report included with the charges said ''the actual harm realized by this wanton failure is staggering,'' and listed instances of abuse detailed at Sandusky's criminal trial that happened after 1998.
''The continued cover-up of this incident and the ongoing failure to report placed every minor child who would come into contact with Sandusky in the future in grave jeopardy of being abused,'' jurors wrote.
. . . .
Unfortunately:
Kelly sidestepped the question when asked if Paterno, who died of lung cancer in January, would have faced charges were he alive. Paterno had said he knew nothing of the 1998 complaint, but email traffic indicates he was in the loop.
''Mr. Paterno is deceased,'' she said. ''The defendants who have been charged in this case are Curley, Schultz and Spanier, and I'm not going to speculate or comment on Mr. Paterno's relationship to this investigation.''
State Police Commissioner Frank Noonan said he was not backing off his assertion last year that Paterno had a moral obligation, if not a legal one, to tell police what he knew.
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http://www.newser.com/story/158988/sand ... tions.htmlJerry Sandusky is gearing up for another legal battle, says his lawyer: He wants better living conditions in prison. In a five-tier security rating system, Sandusky is a Level 2 prisoner—but he is living in harsher Level 5 conditions,...
"We understand the prison system is trying to balance their concerns about physical safety. We are just looking for middle ground," ...
The university agreed in July to the sanctions, which included a $60 million fine that would be used nationally to finance child abuse prevention grants. The sanctions also included a four-year bowl game ban for the university's marquee football program, reduced football scholarships and the forfeiture of 112 wins but didn't include a suspension of the football program, the so-called death penalty.
In announcing the news conference, Corbett, a Republican, did not indicate whether his office coordinated its legal strategy with state Attorney General-elect Kathleen Kane, who is scheduled to be sworn in Jan. 15.
Kane, a Democrat, ran on a vow to investigate why it took state prosecutors nearly three years to charge Sandusky, an assistant under legendary football coach Joe Paterno. Corbett was the attorney general when that office took over the case in early 2009 and until he became governor in January 2011.
State and congressional lawmakers from Pennsylvania have objected to using the Penn State fine to finance activities in other states. Penn State has already made the first $12 million payment, and an NCAA task force is deciding how it should be spent.
Yeah. Horrible thing that allows a bunch of mostly low income students to get an education. It has its issues to be sure, but for the most part forward progress is being made. The Sandusky situation isn't exactly standard. For every sensational case of criminal and/or sensational bullshit there are about a hundred people quietly getting an education. Although "kid from poor family and rough neighborhood escapes cycle of failure and poverty by financing degree by being a linebacker at Glenville State" isn't nearly as interesting as tales of excess at a handful of elite programs, it is generally more common.Abdul Alhazred wrote:College football is an inherently corrupt institution and must be destroyed.
If anything, on the whole it has gotten better. Sensationalism creates an illusion that obscures reality. The scandals of today are the standard procedures of years past. That is progress.Abdul Alhazred wrote:Maybe it worked that way once?You May Award The Try wrote:Abdul Alhazred wrote:Horrible thing that allows a bunch of mostly low income students to get an education.
You really haven't been paying attention lately.
--J.D.Sandusky victim: Joe Paterno told me to drop abuse accusation
After four years of feuding over the legacy of Joe Paterno, with a few vague details about what he may have known about allegations of sexual abuse by one of his coaches, it is becoming clear there may be much more.
There are now two allegations by men who say they were sexually abused by Jerry Sandusky, who also say they reported their abuse to the legendary coach in the 1970s.
One of those allegations was made public in a court order related to a lawsuit Penn State University filed against its former insurer over who should have to pay settlements to the more than 30 men who have come forward as victims of Sandusky. ["Snip!"--Ed.]
The other has spoken to CNN, in great detail, explaining how he was a troubled young kid in 1971 when he was raped in a Penn State bathroom by Jerry Sandusky. Then, he says, his complaint about it was ignored by Paterno.
For this story, we'll call him Victim A -- in keeping with the way that authorities have labeled the Sandusky accusers.
["Snip!"--Ed.]
This man, who CNN has agreed not to identify in keeping with our policy on sexual assault victims, was just 15 in 1971 when he says Sandusky raped him.
Sandusky was 27, a budding public figure who'd played football for Penn State in the 1960s and was one year into his tenure as an assistant linebacker coach. This was long before he started his now-closed children's charity, The Second Mile, which prosecutors would later call his victim factory.
[Details of actual sexual assault and rape "snipped!" Later, his parents would try to alert Penn State officials--Ed.]
"I tell them what happened -- well, I couldn't get it out of me that I was -- I can't even tell it to this day. It's just degrading -- that I was raped," he said.
"I told the story up to a certain point. I told them that he grabbed me and that I got the hell out of there."
They accused him of making it up. "'Stop this right now! We'll call the authorities,'" he said they told him.
Victim A says he couldn't think. "I just wanted to get off the phone."
The men on the phone had introduced themselves as Jim and Joe, he said. He had no idea who Jim was, and can't, to this day, say for sure.
"There was no question in my mind who Joe was," he said. "I've heard that voice a million times. It was Joe Paterno."
Sara Ganim, CNN
You can see a nice picture of the statue of the Cunt that his Turd supporters want re-erected.Will Hobson & Cindy Boren:
A man testified in court in 2014 that Penn State football coach Joe Paterno ignored his complaints of a sexual assault committed by assistant coach Jerry Sandusky in 1976 when the man was a 14-year-old boy, according to new court documents unsealed Tuesday in a Philadelphia court.
The victim, who was identified in court records as John Doe 150, said that while he was attending a football camp at Penn State, Sandusky touched him as he showered. Sandusky’s finger penetrated the boy’s rectum, Doe testified in court in 2014, and the victim asked to speak with Paterno about it. Doe testified that he specifically told Paterno that Sandusky had sexually assaulted him, and Paterno ignored it.
“Is it accurate that Coach Paterno quickly said to you, ‘I don’t want to hear about any of that kind of stuff, I have a football season to worry about?'” the man’s lawyer asked him in 2014. At least he has his priorities. . . .
“Specifically. Yes … I was shocked, disappointed, offended. I was insulted… I said, is that all you’re going to do? You’re not going to do anything else?”
Paterno, the man testified, just walked away.
Washington Post
That is former incompetent couch of the incompetent Tampa Bay Buttmunchers. . . .Chip Patterson:
According to PennLive.com, Pennsylvania Manufacturers Association Insurance Co. has claimed in court that Penn State had a duty to inform it of incidents that could result in liability exposure. Therefore, instances of Sandusky's alleged abuse that were witnessed by school employees (coaches) but not reported should take PMA off the hook for helping Penn State with the financials of the settlements.
Risk management expert Raymond Williams, in a report obtained by PennLive, has pointed to six different instances where Penn State should have reported Sandusky's behavior. Two of the cases have been tested in court and resulted in criminal convictions, and all six have resulted in settlement payments.
Also in the unsealed documents was testimony that former Penn State assistant coaches Tom Bradley and Greg Schiano knew of Sandusky abusing boys. Ex-Penn State assistant Mike McQueary named both Bradley and Schiano, now defensive coordinators at UCLA and Ohio State respectively, as coaches who either witnessed or knew of Sandusky using Penn State facilities for alleged sexual misconduct.
CBSSports
--J.D.Jon Solomon:
When asked whether Bradley provided any details about what Schiano reported to him, McQueary replied, "No, only that he had -- I can't remember if it was one night or one morning, but that Greg had come into his office white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower. And that's it. That's all he ever told me."
McQueary placed the date of his conversation with Bradley sometime in the mid-2000s, "meaning like 2005, '06; it could have been anywhere in there." McQueary said he did not know whether Bradley reported the incident witnessed by Schiano to anyone. And why would he? That would require him to actually give a shit.
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Sadly the unbelievable part of this for me is how many people still support Penn and Paterno. I would understand if it was some usual, "lack of institutional control" bullshit, or even cheating, but this is just dark, indefensible shit.ed wrote:unbelieveable.