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Although he's mentioned in a lot of threads, we don't have a thread specifically about Elon Musk.

That tweet he made a few weeks ago about taking the company private has been costly:

Elon Musk agrees to pay $20 million and quit as Tesla chairman in deal with SEC

I suppose the $20 million he can afford, but stepping down as chairman means he's no longer the top boss. Maybe that's just a technicality, but eventually it means he could conceivably be forced out (like the founder of Papa John's). I don't think that's what will happen, but you never know.

It was a stupid tweet because it affected the share price, but it wasn't really true. Or at least it was misleading.
Elon Musk agreed Saturday to step down as chairman of Tesla and pay a $20 million fine in a deal to settle charges brought this week by the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Under the settlement, which requires court approval, Musk will be allowed to stay as CEO but must leave his role as chairman of the board within 45 days. He cannot seek reelection for three years, according to court filings.
He accepted the deal with the SEC "without admitting or denying the allegations of the complaint," according to a court document.
Separately, Tesla agreed Saturday to pay $20 million to settle claims it failed to adequately police Musk's tweet.
"The $40 million in penalties will be distributed to harmed investors under a court-approved process," the SEC said in a press release.
The company also agreed to appoint two new independent directors to its board and establish a board committee to oversee Musk's communications.
Tesla declined to comment. A spokesperson confirmed Musk will be permitted to remain a member of the board.
The announcement from the SEC comes two days after the agency filed a lawsuit against Musk, claiming he misled investors. The suit centers on tweets Musk sent on August 7 in which he said he had secured funding to take Tesla private at $420 a share, causing the company's stock to soar. He had not secured the funding, the SEC said.
The lawsuit sought to ban Musk from serving as an officer or director of any publicly traded company.
Musk called the SEC's suit "unjustified."
So the total fine is actually $40 million, half paid by Musk himself, and half by the company.

I hear he's also getting sued by that British cave diver who he called a "pedo". Maybe he should be more careful about what he says on Twitter.
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Twitter is a double-edged sword. Sure Musk falls a few time into these kind of traps, but social media has undoubtedly helped Tesla, SpaceX, and Musk himself more than it hurt them. At least thus far.
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NASA launching safety review of SpaceX because Elon Musk smoked pot

Aw NASA, I thought you were cool. (I kid of course.)
When NASA tapped SpaceX and Boeing to fly astronauts to the International Space Station, the companies likely expected the government agency would keep a close eye on things. But they probably didn't expect a probe prompted by a podcast. According to the Washington Post, NASA is conducting a safety review of both companies because some officials were annoyed when they found out SpaceX CEO Elon Musk smoked weed with Joe Rogan.

While NASA hasn't specifically said the review has to do with Musk's behavior, a spokesperson for the agency told the Washington Post the probe would "ensure the companies are meeting NASA's requirements for workplace safety, including the adherence to a drug-free environment." NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine was also cited as saying "culture and leadership start at the top." Both statements seem like a not-so-thinly veiled shot at Musk, even though the review will extend to Boeing.

While NASA's apparently invasive and intensive review, set to take place next year, may seem like a bit of an overreaction, it's not even the first government agency to take a closer look at its relationship with SpaceX as a result of Musk smoking pot. The Air Force also reportedly looked into Musk's behavior. Use of illegal drugs, including weed, is prohibited for someone with a government security clearance.

Aside from Musk's appearance on the Joe Rogan podcast, NASA investigators have plenty to keep an eye on as it monitors SpaceX and Boeing. The companies both have multi-billion dollar contracts to take astronauts to the ISS, and both have suffered noteworthy setbacks in the last few years. SpaceX has struggled with its craft's parachute system, while Boeing suffered a propellant leak and has fallen short on a number of safety tests. SpaceX plans to launch a crewed craft by June 2019, while Boeing is targeting August 2019.
A safety review is probably a good idea anyway. And it's probably speculative to think that "but for" Musk smoking pot there would be no safety review. NASA isn't saying that's what prompted it. But it makes for a click-baity headline.
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Elon Musk invents the "tunnel". What wacky ideas will he think of next!!

https://nypost.com/2018/12/19/elon-musk ... d-highway/

OK, it's not just any old tunnel. It's a special tunnel.
Musk added that vehicles would have to be outfitted with specialty wheels that would pop out of a car’s side and run along track in the tunnels.
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Elon Musk Hired A Convicted Felon To Investigate The Cave Rescuer Who Is Now Suing Him
Recently released court documents from a defamation case in US federal court show that Musk retained Howard-Higgins after the self-proclaimed investigator cold-emailed him offering to “dig deep” into Vernon Unsworth, a British expat who played a key role in the rescue of a boys soccer team from a Thailand cave system in July 2018.
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So what?
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Elon Musk tweet wipes $14bn off Tesla's value
Tesla boss Elon Musk wiped $14bn (£11bn) off the carmaker's value after tweeting its share price was too high.
It also knocked $3bn off Mr Musk's own stake in Tesla as investors promptly bailed out of the company.
"Tesla stock price too high imo," he said in one of several tweets that included a vow to sell his possessions.
In other tweets, he said his girlfriend was mad at him, while another simply read: "Rage, rage against the dying of the light of consciousness."
In 2018, a tweet about Tesla's future on the New York stock market led to regulators fining the company $20m and Mr Musk agreeing to have all further posts on the platform pre-screened by lawyers.
'Headache'
On Friday, the Wall Street Journal reported it had asked the billionaire if he was joking about the share price tweet and whether it had been vetted, receiving the reply "No".
Tesla's share price has surged this year, putting the electric carmaker's value at close to $100bn, a mark that would trigger a bonus payment of hundreds of millions of dollars to the entrepreneur.
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Think he benefited from the change in share price?
Quietly sold his own company massively short beforehand through multiple intermediaries?

I have no evidences that he played in that way, but Cornelius Vanderbilt used to pull shit like that all the time.
Then he'd buy the shares back to protect his own equity.

Not a new idea at all.


Afterthought: Much easier to Tweet than have flunkies spread rumors. Also it makes the timing more manageable.
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Elon Musk and Grimes still can’t agree on pronunciation of X Æ A-12
Spoiler:
That's what they named their newborn son.
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No child deserves that sort of nonsense. What a couple of idiots.
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On the other hand, his parents are rich. Maybe that's a mixed blessing, but I'd take it.
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It’s hard to come up with an original name these days
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Anaxagoras wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 1:45 am On the other hand, his parents are rich. Maybe that's a mixed blessing, but I'd take it.
It will pay for the daily ass-kicking he will receive from kindergarten on.

Add in daily anal rape if they send him to public school in England.

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Pyrrho wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 1:15 am No child deserves that sort of nonsense. What a couple of idiots.
The billions trillions in inheritance will make up for it. They'll call him Elon Jr, for short.
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His whole life will be blighted by hatred of his father, not unlike Christopher Robin Milne.
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He's moving to Texas.
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Pyrrho wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 9:29 pm He's moving to Texas.
Taxes and regulations finally got to him?
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Tesla Model 3 was California's best selling car through first quarter

The electric sedan found more buyers than any rivaling luxury car, and even mass-market sedans and crossovers.

Data from the California New Car Dealers Association released last week shows the Model 3 sold 18,856 units through March 31 of this year. The figure is greater than any rival car, and even trumps mass-market cars and crossovers. The car to come closest was the Honda Civic with 18,001 units sold in the same time period. The Toyota Camry (17,871 units), RAV4 (17,261) and Corolla (15,575) round out the top five cars through Q1 in California. The CNCDA categorizes the Model 3 in the "near luxury" category, which has it compete with cars like the BMW 3 Series and Mercedes-Benz C-Class. In its respective segment, the electric car blew rivals away. The 3 Series sits in second place with 3,437 units sold to the Model 3's 18,856. The Lexus ES (2,703 units), C-Class (2,199) and Audi A4 (1,099 units) fill in the final results, and it's clear, Californians dig their Teslas.
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesl ... lling-car/

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Son1, who lives in California, would not be surprised but on this coast I either rarely see (or perhaps notice) a Tesla. I do know that Tesla very recently opened a service center here so there must be enough to at least keep them busy. One of my primary concerns about buying a Tesla for myself was lack of local service centers. Another is that they're just not built very well at not-critical and cosmetic level; fit and finish is probably a better term. They're also oddly engineered, Musk seems to hate a simple mechanical linkage, like a door handle for example.

After taking a deeper thunk at this, those market share numbers are a bit cherry picked. The numbers are broken down by car model, not maker. Tesla only makes one model in this class (the Model 3) while all the other makers make several.