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In this photo released Tuesday Jan. 8, 2019, by Britain's South West Water company, showing part of a "fatberg", a mass of hardened fat, oil and baby wipes, measuring some 64 meters (210 feet) long, in the town of Sidmouth, England. The fatberg is blocking a sewer in the southwestern English town, and will take a sewer team around eight weeks to dissect and dispose of the obstruction. (South West Water via AP)

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Post by Witness » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:30 am

Overweight horses are the 'new normal', vets warn

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Half of horses in the UK are overweight because owners have forgotten how to keep them healthy, leading equine vets have warned.

Experts from the British Equine Veterinary Assocation (BEVA) said obesity is the gravest threat facing horses, which is resulting in hundreds being put down every year.

David Rendle, a member of BEVA's ethics and welfare committees, said studies showed around half of all UK horses are now overweight, while research from the Royal Veterinary College found as much as 70 per cent of native pony breeds were obese.

Horses with excess weight are at risk of suffering from laminitis, a potentially fatal condition caused by blood flow restriction to the hooves, which can cause swelling and inflammation.

Around 600 horses a year are said to be euthanised as a result of the disease.

Mr Rendle warned the obesity epidemic shows no signs of slowing as horse and pony owners are now no longer capable of recognising or determining a healthy weight for their animals.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... vets-warn/

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They couldn't spring for a green folder?

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Post by Doctor X » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:05 pm

'IS Beatles': Mother loses high court challenge over evidence

The mother of one of four suspected Islamic State fighters has lost a legal challenge against the UK's sharing of evidence with the US without seeking assurances he would not be executed.

El Shafee Elsheikh is accused of belonging to an IS cell which is thought to have beheaded hostages.

["Snip!"--Ed.]

The court ruled the UK has no legal duty to protect Mr Elsheikh.

Britain shared 600 witness statements gathered by the Metropolitan Police with the US under a process called "mutual legal assistance" (MLA).

Mr Elsheikh's mother, Maha Elgizouli, challenged the government's decision.

She argued that, due to the UK's stance on the death penalty, the government should have ensured her son would not face execution if he was extradited and tried in the US.

She also stated that it went against her own human rights An beheading innocent people did not?, and breached data protection laws.

Lord Chief Justice Lord Burnett said: "There is no general, common law duty on Her Majesty's government to take positive steps to protect an individual's life from the actions of a third party and that includes requiring particular undertakings before complying with the MLA request."

Mr Elsheikh and the other suspected IS fighter, Alexanda Kotey, were raised in the UK, but no longer have British citizenships.

The two, who are being held by Syrian-Kurdish forces, are accused of being a part of a terrorist cell known as "The Beatles" because of their British accents.

The cell are believed to have murdered foreign hostages, including Alan Henning, James Foley and David Haines; created brutal propaganda videos, and tortured dozens of people.

This judgement paves the way for the two Londoners to be prosecuted in the USA - after a fraught series of talks over what to do with them.

Documents in the case show that the US administration became frustrated with the UK's refusal to take the men back while trying to tell it what to do with them if they were instead to face justice in America.

In fact, the British ambassador in Washington warned President Trump could "hold a grudge" if the UK persisted in asking for a death penalty assurance.

Ms Elgizouli's lawyers argued that the UK's long-standing opposition to the death penalty was therefore cast aside in the interests of political expediency.

But today's judgement underlines that no law has been broken. Mr Elsheikh is not British - nor is he under UK control - so the obligations on ministers to act on his mother's concerns are limited.

In the past, Britain has sought assurances from foreign governments that the death penalty would not be used in cases where the UK provided information or extradited suspects.

In this case, intelligence was shared with the US but no such assurances were sought.

["Snip!"--Ed.]Gareth Peirce, of Birnberg Peirce Solicitors, said that while Ms Elgizouli thinks her son should be prosecuted, she argues that it should take place within accordance of international human rights standards As he followed when he tortured and beheaded innocents?.

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Man complains of 'Orwellian police' after tweet investigation

A man has described police as using George Orwell's novel 1984 as an "operating manual" after he was investigated over alleged transphobic comments posted on social media.

An officer from Humberside Police interviewed Harry Miller by telephone after the force received complaints over his posts on Twitter.

One tweet questioned whether transgender women were real women.

Mr Miller said he was "utterly shocked" to be questioned by a police constable.

"He said even though I had committed no crime he needed to check my thinking," said Mr Miller.
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In a statement, Humberside Police said: "We received reports of a number of transphobic comments being posted on social media.

"We take all reports of hate related incidents seriously. We will always investigate to determine if a hate crime or incident has been committed and we will then take proportionate action."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-humber-47005937

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Post by Anaxagoras » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:12 pm

Witness wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:59 am
Man complains of 'Orwellian police' after tweet investigation

A man has described police as using George Orwell's novel 1984 as an "operating manual" after he was investigated over alleged transphobic comments posted on social media.

An officer from Humberside Police interviewed Harry Miller by telephone after the force received complaints over his posts on Twitter.

One tweet questioned whether transgender women were real women.

Mr Miller said he was "utterly shocked" to be questioned by a police constable.

"He said even though I had committed no crime he needed to check my thinking," said Mr Miller.
[…]
In a statement, Humberside Police said: "We received reports of a number of transphobic comments being posted on social media.

"We take all reports of hate related incidents seriously. We will always investigate to determine if a hate crime or incident has been committed and we will then take proportionate action."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-humber-47005937

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It is Orwellian. The "Thought Police"???
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Post by ed » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:17 pm

Doctor X wrote:
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Lord Chief Justice Lord Burnett said: "There is no general, common law duty on Her Majesty's government to take positive steps to protect an individual's life from the actions of a third party and that includes requiring particular undertakings before complying with the MLA request."

Interesting. Parallels the obligation of the police to protect here.

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Post by ed » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:45 pm

Witness wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:59 am
Man complains of 'Orwellian police' after tweet investigation

A man has described police as using George Orwell's novel 1984 as an "operating manual" after he was investigated over alleged transphobic comments posted on social media.

An officer from Humberside Police interviewed Harry Miller by telephone after the force received complaints over his posts on Twitter.

One tweet questioned whether transgender women were real women.

Mr Miller said he was "utterly shocked" to be questioned by a police constable.

"He said even though I had committed no crime he needed to check my thinking," said Mr Miller.
[…]
In a statement, Humberside Police said: "We received reports of a number of transphobic comments being posted on social media.

"We take all reports of hate related incidents seriously. We will always investigate to determine if a hate crime or incident has been committed and we will then take proportionate action."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-humber-47005937

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This is what people who want to dick around with our constitution don't seem to get. There is a "higher law" one that is very tough to change in the US and one that would make something like this unsupportable.

And then there is this
Hate crimes and hate incidents
In most crimes it is something the victim has in their possession or control that motivates the offender to commit the crime. With hate crime it is ‘who’ the victim is, or ‘what’ the victim appears to be that motivates the offender to commit the crime.

A hate crime is defined as 'Any criminal offence which is perceived by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by hostility or prejudice based on a person's race or perceived race; religion or perceived religion; sexual orientation or perceived sexual orientation; disability or perceived disability and any crime motivated by hostility or prejudice against a person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender.'

A hate incident is any incident which the victim, or anyone else, thinks is based on someone’s prejudice towards them because of their race, religion, sexual orientation, disability or because they are transgender.

Not all hate incidents will amount to criminal offences, but it is equally important that these are reported and recorded by the police.

Evidence of the hate element is not a requirement. You do not need to personally perceive the incident to be hate related. It would be enough if another person, a witness or even a police officer thought that the incident was hate related.
https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice ... ate-crime/

This is from the Metropolitan Police. Note the highlighted sentence. That is scary shit right there. Things become crimes on the fly.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:13 pm

It's the sort of thing that happens when one's "constitution" is merely a gentleman's agreement not to be beastly among ruling class factions.
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Muslim mums protest outside school for 'promoting homosexuality' to their kids

But Parkfield Community School in Saltley defends programme which challenges homophobia in primary schools
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/m ... l-15729135

Holocaust Memorial Day: 'Shocking' levels of denial remain

Five per cent of UK adults do not believe the Holocaust took place and one in 12 believes its scale has been exaggerated, a survey has found.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47015184

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:12 pm

Buying a Hammer? The U.K. Worries That Might Make You a Terrorist
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They try to blow off the idea that people are going to end up reporting innocent activity with the statement "Reporting suspicious activity won't ruin lives, but it might save them." Do they really think there's no consequences to being investigated as a potential terrorist? Law enforcement in the United Kingdom goes after and prosecutes people for the content of their tweets, for heaven's sake. These investigations would most likely upend the lives of their subjects. This ad isn't just mockable, it's horrifying. For the love of God, do not go through life being suspicious of common daily occurrences. And be very wary of a law enforcement organization that tells you to treat people who record the behavior of law enforcement as potential threats.
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FGM: Mother guilty of genital mutilation of daughter

A woman who mutilated her three-year-old daughter has become the first person in the UK to be found guilty of female genital mutilation (FGM).

The 37-year-old mother from east London wept in the dock as she was convicted after a trial at the Old Bailey.

Spells and curses intended to deter police and social workers from investigating were found at the Ugandan woman's home, the trial heard.

Her 43-year-old partner was acquitted by the jury.

Prosecutors said the mother "coached" her daughter "to lie to the police so she wouldn't get caught".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-engla ... ssion=true

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