Fukushima one year on

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Re: Fukushima one year on

Post by sparks » Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:14 pm

Centigrade makes far more sense than does Fahrenfuck ever did.
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Re: Fukushima one year on

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:37 pm

sparks wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:14 pm
Centigrade makes far more sense than does Fahrenfuck ever did.
Celsius just as culture bound, geocentric, and typically German as Fahrenheit.

Or are we in "The Goddess of Reason is proud of Her ten fingers" territory?
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Re: Fukushima one year on

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ed wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:57 pm
"C"????????????? WTF is that in American :x :x :x :x
Of course a Dutch–German–Polish scale setting freezing water at 32 and boiling at 212 is infinitely more logical and convenient, no doubt.

That being agreed upon, we hit 291 K some days ago. Mais où sont les neiges d'antan?

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Re: Fukushima one year on

Post by sparks » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:13 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:37 pm
sparks wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:14 pm
Centigrade makes far more sense than does Fahrenfuck ever did.
Celsius just as culture bound, geocentric, and typically German as Fahrenheit.

Or are we in "The Goddess of Reason is proud of Her ten fingers" territory?
Nicely done, but wrong. :De_Bunk:
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Re: Fukushima one year on

Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:00 am

Witness wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:18 am
ed wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:57 pm
"C"????????????? WTF is that in American :x :x :x :x
Of course a Dutch–German–Polish scale setting freezing water at 32 and boiling at 212 is infinitely more logical and convenient, no doubt.

That being agreed upon, we hit 291 K some days ago. Mais où sont les neiges d'antan?
Living in Japan, it took me a while to get used to the units they use here without trying to convert them back into the ones I grew up with.

Yen are actually pretty easy. I realize of course that the actual exchange rate varies, but that's not important in daily life, so 1 dollar = 100 yen, 1 yen = 1 penny. Easy.

For temperatures, just remember 20C. 20C is pretty much perfect for being comfortable during normal activities (68F for Americans). 10C or less is cold, 30C is too hot, like a hot summer day. Anything over 24C is hotter than I like it. And less than 15, you'll probably want at least a light jacket.
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Re: Fukushima one year on

Post by sparks » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:11 am

C is good because 0 is freezing and 100 is boiling for water at standard pressure. This is why we like this scale. It fucking works.
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Re: Fukushima one year on

Post by Witness » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:20 am

Anaxagoras wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:00 am
1 dollar = 100 yen, 1 yen = 1 penny. Easy.
Older people in Algeria still converted 1 dinar ~ 1 franc (pre-euro) = 100 "anciens francs", did their computation, then converted back.
Practically no storekeeper was able to return the correct change, randomly too much or not enough (in which case a kind of haggling ensued till both parties were satisfied, if you cared).

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Re: Fukushima one year on

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:06 pm

sparks wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:11 am
C is good because 0 is freezing and 100 is boiling for water at standard pressure. This is why we like this scale. It fucking works.
Why does that make it better? Half the useful divisions of Freedomheit!

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Re: Fukushima one year on

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:10 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:00 am
Witness wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:18 am
ed wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:57 pm
"C"????????????? WTF is that in American :x :x :x :x
...

Yen are actually pretty easy. I realize of course that the actual exchange rate varies, but that's not important in daily life, so 1 dollar = 100 yen, 1 yen = 1 penny. Easy.
When I was there it hovered between 210 and 230, so I just halved everything.

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Re: Fukushima one year on

Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:24 pm

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When I was there it hovered between 210 and 230, so I just halved everything.
When the yen was at its strongest a few years ago it was up to about 80/dollar. Now it's back over 100, but it's been on both sides of 100 a few times. When I first got to Japan in 92 I was shocked by how expensive some things were outside the base. 5 bucks for a soft drink at some restaurants, for example. I take it it wasn't like that in your day?

It's actually better now, that was right after the infamous "bubble" when Japanese people were spending money like drunken sailors, so you could get away with prices like that.
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Re: Fukushima one year on

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:38 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:24 pm
Rob Lister wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:10 pm

When I was there it hovered between 210 and 230, so I just halved everything.
When the yen was at its strongest a few years ago it was up to about 80/dollar. Now it's back over 100, but it's been on both sides of 100 a few times. When I first got to Japan in 92 I was shocked by how expensive some things were outside the base. 5 bucks for a soft drink at some restaurants, for example. I take it it wasn't like that in your day?
It was like that when I was there. While the exchange rate was better, most things were still twice as expensive. A counter-meal of chicken fried rice was about 1000yen, or $5. A Suntory, 500y. That was a lot for an E3 in '78.

That same beer could have been had on base for about a buck.

Clubs were out of the question until I got a chubby girlfriend with thick ankles who usually paid my way. Lots of stories about her.


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Re: Fukushima one year on

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Re: Fukushima one year on

Post by Anaxagoras » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:42 am

Oh yeah, today is 8 years since the tsunami.
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Re: Fukushima one year on

Post by sparks » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:47 am

I'll raise my glass to the melt-throughs in a day or two. :) Alvin Weinberg is spinning in his grave.
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Re: Fukushima one year on

Post by robinson » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:48 am

"We nuclear people have made a Faustian bargain with society. On the one hand we offer—in the catalytic nuclear burner (i.e., the breeder)—an inexhaustible source of energy. Even in the short range, when we use ordinary reactors, we offer energy that is cheaper than energy from fossil fuel. Moreover, this source of energy when properly handled is almost nonpolluting. Whereas fossil-fuel burners emit oxides of carbon, nitrogen, and sulfur... there is no intrinsic reason why nuclear systems must emit any pollutant except heat and traces of radioactivity.

But the price that we demand of society for this magical source is both a vigilance from and longevity of our social institutions that we are quite unaccustomed to."
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Re: Fukushima one year on

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Anaxagoras wrote:
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Oh yeah, today is 8 years since the tsunami.
Yep.

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Re: Fukushima one year on

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Re: Fukushima one year on

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:59 pm

So, what's the death toll so far?

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Re: Fukushima one year on

Post by robinson » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:59 pm

Fackler, reporting for the Times, wrote that “Japan’s political leaders at first did not know about the [SPEEDI] system and later played down the data, apparently fearful of having to significantly enlarge the evacuation zone—and acknowledge the accident’s severity.” Whatever the motives, the withholding of data, critics say, put unsuspecting citizens into harm’s way, and the result was a further erosion of public trust.

There were other, similarly fateful decisions. Brumfiel noted the rush by some affected prefectures, in the days following the disaster, to pronounce their local rice and fish safe to eat—and subsequent findings of contamination in those same foodstuffs. Even more damaging, he said, was the government’s unexplained—and seemingly arbitrary—raising of safe radiation-exposure levels for schoolchildren, from 1 millisievert to 20 millisieverts per year (see Page 20).
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Re: Fukushima one year on

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:22 pm

So what's the death toll so far?