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### Re: Japan

I assume this doesn't have anything to do with the government shutdown?

TSA is "essential" isn't it?
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### Re: Japan

Yes, the Democrats are to blame.

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### Re: Japan

Under the circumstances, I think she made the best choice. She might have made it through customs in Japan, but that's too big a risk to take. Trying to take it back on the return flight would be an even bigger risk. If you get it into Japan, maybe go out in the woods somewhere and bury it. Can't just throw it in the trash can.
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### Re: Japan

I am assuming that since she brought it up, she is just an idiot.

Too stupid to own a gun.

Seriously.

You should not forget that you have something like that on your person.

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### Re: Japan

Anaxagoras wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:07 am I assume this doesn't have anything to do with the government shutdown?

TSA is "essential" isn't it?
TSA is not getting paid.
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### Re: Japan

Rob Lister wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:37 am
Anaxagoras wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:07 am I assume this doesn't have anything to do with the government shutdown?

TSA is "essential" isn't it?
TSA is not getting paid.
So they have to show up, but they might not be very motivated to do their jobs. I once went through a government shutdown when I was in the Navy and while there was some grumbling and complaining, people still did their jobs because you could get in serious trouble if you didn't. And you knew you would be paid eventually. With TSA, the worst thing that can happen to them is to be fired (unless they actually commit a crime, but that would be hard to prove). They can't have their liberty revoked or be given extra duties like in the military.
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### Re: Japan

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### Re: Japan

Doctor X wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:36 am Unfortunately, you are probably correct about the last point.

As for whether they would search her, I do not know. But now you are stuck with a gun in Japan. What do you do with it? How do you dispose it? Assuming it is registered in USA!USA!USA! when she goes home and reports it stolen it will look rather weird should the Japanese ever find it. All of that is much more risky. Unless she is stupid enough to try to bring it back to America.

--J.D.
Anaxagoras wrote:Under the circumstances, I think she made the best choice. She might have made it through customs in Japan, but that's too big a risk to take. Trying to take it back on the return flight would be an even bigger risk. If you get it into Japan, maybe go out in the woods somewhere and bury it. Can't just throw it in the trash can.

I don't know much about federal crimes. But a quick internet search turns up 49 U.S.C. § 46505 - Carrying a weapon or explosive on an aircraft. Up to 10 years. Telling the cabin crew is only the "best" choice if her #metoo advantage saves her from prosecution in the States.

As to what I'd do? I wouldn't carry a gun on a fucking airplane for starters. But, hypothetically, if faced with that problem, fuck burying it. I'd buy a file, obliterate the serial number (I know, another crime), take it apart, take a ferry ride, and drop the pieces in the ocean. Then plan on maybe not visiting Japan for a while.
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### Re: Japan

In other Japan News, the former CEO of Nissan, Carlos Ghosn, appeared in court:

Ghosn insists he has been 'wrongly accused and unfairly detained'
TOKYO -- Former Nissan Motor Chairman Carlos Ghosn denied the accusations against him at a court hearing on Tuesday in his first public appearance since his arrest on Nov. 19.

"I am an innocent of the accusations made against me," Ghosn said in a roughly 10-minute statement in English.

"I have been wrongly accused and unfairly detained based on meritless and unsubstantiated accusations," he said.

"Let me say that I have genuine love and appreciation for Nissan," Ghosn said.

He said he had "acted honorably, legally and with the knowledge and approval of the appropriate executives inside the company."

Ghosn, wearing a black suit, was led into the Tokyo District Court with his hands cuffed to a rope around his waist after having met his lawyer Motonari Otsuru for roughly 30 minutes. His hands were released as he sat down.

In reference to accusations of passing on to Nissan about 1.85 billion yen ($17 million) in personal losses from foreign exchange contracts, Ghosn argued that these currency hedges were related to Nissan's insistence that he be paid his salary in Japanese currency. He had entered into the contracts, backed by Nissan shares as collateral, to protect himself against currency movements, as his expenses were all in U.S. dollars. He had asked the automaker to temporarily take on the collateral when the financial crisis in October 2008 led to a sharp drop in Nissan shares. The request, he said, had been "so long as it came to no cost to the company." The contracts were "then transferred back to me without Nissan incurring any loss," Ghosn said. The executive is also accused of paying a Saudi acquaintance 1.6 billion yen in company funds. He asserted that Khaled Juffali was a "long-time supporter and partner" of the automaker who was "appropriately compensated" for "critical services that substantially benefited Nissan." Ghosn also said he kept "a record of the market compensation" for his role, based on offers that he had been made to take the helm at other automakers, but this was done for his own reference and had no legal effect. "I never received any compensation from Nissan that was not disclosed, nor did I ever enter into any binding contract with Nissan to be paid a fixed amount that was not disclosed," he said. He closed his statement with an assertion of his commitment to Nissan, mentioning the improvement in financial results and the revival of key brands during his tenure, as well as the introduction of Mitsubishi Motors to the Renault-Nissan alliance. The court last week approved prosecutor requests to keep Ghosn in custody until Jan. 11, prompting his legal team to request a hearing at which the prosecution must set out the reasons for his continued detention, a rarely exercised right provided under Article 34 of Japan's constitution. The executive, who remains chief of Renault, has been arrested a total of three times since being detained initially on allegations of underreporting his compensation. He has also been accused of breach of trust over a scheme in which he allegedly transferred personal trading losses to Nissan. His prolonged detention has brought renewed international scrutiny of Japan's criminal justice system, which lets prosecutors keep suspects in custody for extended periods and prohibits lawyers from being present during interrogations that can last several hours. Ghosn's 24-year-old son, Anthony, recently told French weekly Journal du Dimanche that in the Japanese judicial system the defendant cannot have a complete vision of the documents of prosecutors, as they only "reveal little by little" the elements they possess. Few defendants use the process Ghosn is employing as it tends to yield few legal benefits. Of the 104,529 detentions approved by the courts in fiscal 2017, the Article 34 provision had been tapped in just 583 cases, or 0.55%. The detention period for the latest allegations will expire on Friday, when prosecutors must decide whether or not to pursue charges of aggravated breach of trust. Ghosn will then be allowed to apply for bail, but could also be rearrested on new allegations. This is why you do not want to be arrested in Japan. A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool. William Shakespeare Doctor X Posts: 73464 Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:09 pm Title: Collective Messiah Location: Your Mom ### Re: Japan shuize wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:04 am Telling the cabin crew is only the "best" choice if her #metoo advantage saves her from prosecution in the States. See Anax's Mom's post above regarding the legal system in Japan. I think we all agree that she is an idiot. --J.D. Mob of the Mean: Free beanie, cattle-prod and Charley Fan Club! "Doctor X is just treating you the way he treats everyone--as subhuman crap too dumb to breathe in after you breathe out." – Don DocX: FTW. – sparks "Doctor X wins again." – Pyrrho "Never sorry to make a racist Fucktard cry." – His Humble MagNIfIcence "It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone." – clarsct "I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far." – Grammatron "Indeed you are a river to your people. Shit. That's going to end up in your sig." – Pyrrho "Try a twelve step program and accept Doctor X as your High Power." – asthmatic camel "just like Doc X said." – gnome WS CHAMPIONS X4!!!! NBA CHAMPIONS!! Stanley Cup! SB CHAMPIONS X6!!!!!! ed Posts: 40080 Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:52 pm Title: G_D ### Re: Japan If it wasn't registered she should have stuck it in the lav just before landing (after having wiped it of course) and then simply gone on about her life. Had it been registered I'd do the same thing but then email Delta once safely ensconced in my hotel and ask them to send it to my home in the USA. Take the high ground and assume that they will do your bidding. Or, maybe better yet, get a lawyer to make the call. But I'd be damn sure that I put miles between the gun and me before I did anything. Oh, yeah, flush the ammo. ETA or explain how Lister packed your luggage. Tell them his history of entertainment and technical recommendations. He'll probably get the chair. Last edited by ed on Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:22 pm, edited 1 time in total. This space for let Rob Lister Posts: 23316 Joined: Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:15 pm Title: Incipient toppler Location: Swimming in Lake Ed ### Re: Japan Why didn't she just order the plane to turn around? ed Posts: 40080 Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:52 pm Title: G_D ### Re: Japan Anaxagoras wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:14 am In other Japan News, the former CEO of Nissan, Carlos Ghosn, appeared in court: This is why you do not want to be arrested in Japan. Or in Europe, ask Amanda Knox. This space for let shuize Posts: 3834 Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:32 am ### Re: Japan Doctor X wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:17 am shuize wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:04 am Telling the cabin crew is only the "best" choice if her #metoo advantage saves her from prosecution in the States. See Anax's Mom's post above regarding the legal system in Japan. I think we all agree that she is an idiot. --J.D. I know a bit about the legal system in Japan. Although I'm only recently starting to catch up on the Ghosn case. I'm not sure I have all the information yet, but Japanese prosecutors definitely have a hard on for him. As for our hypothetical gun case, if I were in the woman's shoes and actually got caught at customs, I'd play on all the stereotypes. "I'm just a dumb woman. I didn't know it was there. I only have it because America is such a dangerous place and my husband told me to carry it. I'm actually scared of guns. And I'm really, really sorry." And here's the important point, I'd plead guilty right away. If she did those things, my guess is she'd get less time in Japan than an average man who volunteered he was carrying the gun on the plane prosecuted in America. Ghosn's problem, it seems, is that he thinks he actually has a chance of beating the charges. Who knows. Maybe he'll be in the 0.2% of criminal defendants who are found not guilty at trial. But I know which way I'll be betting. And, from what I've heard, the "trial tax" is a lot higher in Japan. shuize Posts: 3834 Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:32 am ### Re: Japan ed wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:25 pm Or in Europe, ask Amanda Knox. Another case I don't know much about. But wasn't Knox acting weird and doing cartwheels during the police interrogation? Definitely don't do that if ever arrested in Japan. ed Posts: 40080 Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:52 pm Title: G_D ### Re: Japan shuize wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:42 pm ed wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:25 pm Or in Europe, ask Amanda Knox. Another case I don't know much about. But wasn't Knox acting weird and doing cartwheels during the police interrogation? Definitely don't do that if ever arrested in Japan. Have to check but as I recall, they sweated her without council for a couple of days. Or Turkey. I'd really pay to see some of our snowflakes demanding their rights in Slovenia. This space for let shuize Posts: 3834 Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:32 am ### Re: Japan ed wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:49 pm Have to check but as I recall, they sweated her without council for a couple of days. Or Turkey. I'd really pay to see some of our snowflakes demanding their rights in Slovenia. This article says she did cartwheels and splits at the police station while waiting for questioning to begin. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldn ... urder.html As noted above, that would not play well in Japan. Anaxagoras Posts: 28885 Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:45 am Location: Yokohama/Tokyo, Japan ### Re: Japan It's hard for me to find any sympathy for Ghosn. His pay was$16.9 million per year according to Reuters.

That's assuming he just made what he was officially being paid. Every year.

If \$16.9 million per year wasn't enough and he felt like he could embezzle more money on top of that, then fuck him. There needs to be some accountability.

I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot more white collar crime like this goes on, but that most of the time, the fuckers get away with it. Only a few are caught.

I mean, for crying out loud, why isn't that enough money? Why do you need to steal more money on top of that?

Of course, if he truly is innocent, that doesn't apply, but I doubt it. I'm inclined to believe that he's a greedy fucker who would do something like that. And not just him. There's a lot more like him out there.

Documents show Ghosn's Renault lieutenant drew extra salary via holding company; board unaware of payment
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### Re: Japan

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### Re: Japan

Anaxagoras wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:13 pm I mean, for crying out loud, why isn't that enough money?
Greed.
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### Re: Japan

Coming of Age Ceremony Meanwhile in . . . Japan

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### Re: Japan

Rob Lister wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:37 am
Anaxagoras wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:07 am I assume this doesn't have anything to do with the government shutdown?

TSA is "essential" isn't it?
TSA is not getting paid.
Just saw this story:

Number of TSA workers calling off work spikes as shutdown drags on

According to the article Atlanta is particularly affected.
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### Re: Japan

I was just on the same train with a minor Japanese celebrity. Former sumo wrestler, now apparently a stablemaster. Bulgarian dude who wrestled under the name Kotoōshū. I didn't bother him, but he is a gigantic man here in Japan. I'm pretty big myself but this guy is enormous when you see him in person.

Wikipedia says 6' 8" 337 pounds.
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### Re: Japan

Like meeting お前のお母さん!

Ted Cruz?

Comments on how she has not been broken would prove most unseemly.

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I don't know the etiquette for this sort of thing but I refrained from surreptitiously taking his picture. He was wearing a black western style suit and tie, and he no longer had the mage (topknot) of an active rikishi. But I'm sure it was the same guy.
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He probably stands out.

I agree with The Times ancient assessment that no matter how much one tries, Sumo reminds viewers of "two fat boys fighting in the school yard over a chocky." There is no point to it, frankly. Anyways, it is the last of the "still wear the silly topnot," but retired wrestlers tend to cease wearing it.

I once knew all of the rules, then I realized I did not care. I reviewed them, because a major part of organized crime in Post-WWII was Sumo which led to "professional wrestling" in a way that reminds one of the current popular schlock. I put a quote from a book on it. This wrestling attracted "murican" wrestlers who played "villains" and lost to the Japanese wrestler. I do not think I need to explain that. I found it funny in that years before I tolerated a SJW-Type lecturing on how Americans must "always beat" an Asian in films.

Yes . . . in WWII films . . . that happens. They also defeat Germans as well. No one cares about the Italians, because they never won anything.

I digress.

Anyways, one of the "great" figures was a guy who ended up getting murdered. He was . . .

. . .

. . .

. . . Korean but everyone hid that since the Japanese masses were NOT going to accept a Korean as a "Japanese Hero" winning top honors in Sumo then defending the Imperial Honor[Tm.--Ed.] against the Round-Eyed Aggressors!

I gather things have changed in that "furiners" are able to advance in rank and all of that in a "sport" where women are still barred from certain areas. Running his own stable?

In the rain.

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Doctor X wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:08 pm I gather things have changed in that "furiners" are able to advance in rank and all of that in a "sport" where women are still barred from certain areas. Running his own stable?

In the rain.

--J.D.
They are. Well, technically he is no longer a furiner because he is now a naturalized Japanese citizen. A requirement for running a stable. Most recent yokozuna have been foreign-born. For a while it was mostly Samoans, and more recently Mongolians. They have quotas though, similar to Japanese Professional baseball. I think it's 2 per stable, no more. Or maybe just one. In baseball there's a similar limit to how many foreigners you can have on a team, iirc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nippon_Pr ... l_Baseball
For most of its history, NPB regulations imposed "gaijin waku", a limit on the number of non-Japanese people per team to two or three — including the manager and/or coaching staff.[25] Even today, a team cannot have more than four foreign players on a 25-man game roster, although there is no limit on the number of foreign players that it may sign. If there are four, they cannot all be pitchers nor all be position players.[25] This limits the cost and competition for expensive players of other nationalities, and is similar to rules in many European sports leagues' roster limits on non-European players.

Nonetheless, expatriate baseball players in Japan have been a feature of the Japanese professional leagues since 1934. Hundreds of foreigners — particularly Americans — have played NPB.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumo
In antiquity, sumo was solely a Japanese sport. Since the 1900s, however, the number of foreign-born sumo wrestlers has gradually increased. In the beginning of this period, these few foreign wrestlers were listed as Japanese, but particularly since the 1960s, a number of high-profile foreign-born wrestlers became well-known, and in more recent years have even come to dominate in the highest ranks. Half of the last six wrestlers promoted to ōzeki have been foreign-born, and a Japanese had not been named yokozuna from 1998 until the promotion of Kisenosato Yutaka in 2017. This and other issues eventually led the Sumo Association to limit the number of foreigners allowed to one in each stable.
So no new Japanese yokozuna from 1998 until 2017. During that same period I know there were several foreign-born yokozunas. So despite the quotas, the foreigners were overachieving, which was a bit of a 問題. It's supposed to be their national sport after all.
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### Re: Japan

Anaxagoras wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:08 pmSo despite the quotas, the foreigners were overachieving, which was a bit of a 問題. It's supposed to be their national sport after all.
USA!USA!USA!

Though there was a crapload of Japanese senior Sumo who got expelled for fixing matches and the like. I know that this will come as a shock to you, but the yakuza tend to be involved.

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### Re: Japan

No, actually the Japanese word for stable in the sumo sense is 部屋 which means "room".

Each one is run by an 親方. Which means something like "parent".

Kotooshuu is now Naruto Oyakata

http://narutobeya.com
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### Re: Japan

I find it amazing how smoothly we accept racism and discrimination in other cultures but get the vapors when one uses the term "niggardly" here.

Just an observation.

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### Re: Japan

Meanwhile . . . in Japan:
Japanese magazine fucks up by posting ranking of “f*ckable female college students”

by Kaori Shoji

Some men in Japan just don’t seem to get that objectifying women is wrong.

In the land of the rising sun, the objectification of women is not only a thing, it’s a solid tradition and time-honored marketing ploy. Sometimes though, the tables can be turned the other way. This happened when Weekly SPA, a magazine famed for insisting that sex and money are the only things worth striving for, came out with a story in late December about which colleges had the most number of ‘yareru’ (i.e., easily f*ckable) women. Honorable first place went to Jissen Women’s University, followed by other prestigious women’s universities Otsuma and Ferris. Co-ed universities Hosei and Chuo came in 4th and 5th.

Normally, this would have caused a total of zero ripples on the calm surface of Japan’s societal pond (all the scum lurks beneath) but one young woman dared to raise her voice. This is Kazuna Yamamoto, a senior at International Christian University. Yamamoto saw the article and wrote to petition website change.org – that Japan should stop objectifying women, and noted the nation’s women “do not exist [soley] for the benefit of men.” In two days, Yamamoto’s petition amassed close to 30,000 sympathizers.

SPA editor-in-chief Takashi Inukai issued a public apology, saying that ‘yareru’ was in this case, inappropriate. Sorry. What SPA really meant to say, was ‘become on friendly terms with.’ Come on guys, is that the best you could do?

To make matters marginally more demeaning, SPA’s article was really about the practice of ‘gyara nomi,‘ which is a thing among young Japanese. (The ‘gyara’ comes from guarantee – in this case, cash.) In a ‘gyara nomi,’ a group of men meet a group of women at a drinking party. The men pick up the tab, and they are also obligated to offer money to women they find especially attractive. The women may or may not be pressured into sex by accepting the monetary gift but according to ‘Reina,’

"Reina?" The Reina?
a woman who regularly attends such gatherings, says “the sex is sort of mandatory. I mean, you can’t say no after the guy pays you. For myself and a lot of other girls, it’s a side hustle.” SPA covered an actual ‘gyara nomi’ party and an app that matches up college girls from the aforementioned universities wanting to earn a little cash, and men looking for a quick roll in the hay. It goes without saying that gyara nomi are limited to women under 25, (pre-Christmas cake age) though men do not face that censure.

Two factors are at play here: the objectification of women surely, but it’s also about women seizing the opportunity to cash in on their objectification. In a pathetically perverse way, you could say this is a win-win situation, or at least a supply and demand equation. Such a scenario is nothing new under the rising sun. Until Japan finally opened its doors to the West, objectifying women was so taken for granted the women themselves thought nothing of it.

By the way, the geisha trade of old was all about pushing the envelope of objectification: the closer a geisha got to simulating a perfectly made-up doll who danced and poured sake for her male clients (with a hinted promise of post-party sex), the better.
And in spite of all the water under the bridge and modernization with a vengeance, not a whole lot has changed. The practice of gyara nomi attest to the fact that Japanese men would would rather pay for sex, than god forbid, having to go through the arduous process of talking with a woman and getting to know her, and her consent– before taking her to bed.

As for the women themselves, like the aforementioned Reina many see their youths as a side hustle. If men and society insist on viewing college girls as ‘yareru’ cuties slinging Samantha Thavasa handbags over their arms, then there’s no shortage of college girls who bank on that view. Wearing short skirts, attending gyara nomi parties and then the next day, laugh about the men with their girlfriends at Starbucks. What’s the harm – but more to the point, how will they finance those Samantha Thavasa handbags if not through men? No self-respecting college girl wants to admit she had to buy one all on her own. With the exception of a weird few who want to waste their precious youth pursuing a medical degree (we know where such lofty ambitions wind up), young women find it easier to cater to male fantasies, and be compensated in one way or another for their trouble.

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### Re: Japan

Interesting site you found there. I don't think I've seen that one before. I know I've seen the name Kaori Shoji before. I think she used to write for Japan Times.

Did you see this older article about AKB 48 and Japan's creepy idol industry?

http://www.japansubculture.com/akb48-a- ... ok-review/

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No, but I will check it out. The subject is "coming to a head," so to write, due to public complaints, then apology, then frustration from one member who only had her home address published so she narrowly avoided being raped by two fans . . . no, wait, they insist they grabbed her by the face because they wanted to "talk" to her.

They got bail and, so far, nothing has been done. Her management did nothing.

This has caused a few to note that quite a few "Happy! Happy! Love You!" J-Pop idols are suffering mental depression and even crying for help over the stresses and rules, not to mention the schedules. It is not a stereotype to describe the process as "chew them up and spit them out."

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“Short skirts cause sexual assaults” according to Japanese school uniform poster

If you’ve ever travelled on a Japanese train, chances are you’ve walked past or sat near a poster warning of the dangers of chikan, which literally translates to “pervert” or “molester”, and is commonly used to refer to groping, and the men who grope women on crowed trains.

As something that affects many schoolgirls in particular, a number of organisations have come out with goods to help female students in the fight against chikan, while police departments regularly use posters aimed at young women to encourage them to report assaults.

While anti-groping posters continue to be used at stations and onboard trains, one school recently came under fire for displaying a poster that warned about the dangers of short skirts rather than the dangers of groping. The poster read:
“The short skirt that you think is ‘kawaii’ leads to sex crimes. And it’s not just [a preventative measure] for yourself, but for your friends and companions too.”
The controversial message was brought to the attention of the Internet by a Twitter user who said her younger sister saw the poster up at school and sent her an image of it, saying “This is ridiculous”.

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Interesting read. This was the basis of a hilarious episode of a girl's "coming of age"/"cringe" manga and anime:

the "point" is it is an issue that seems to be just one of those things that "happens." The main character overhears a girl complaining about it and wonders why it has never happened to her.

I have old books, many old books, many, many old books, and some are on the Japanese language which include and explain chikin. This is not a new phenomenon. Thus the article notes:
chikan incidents are yet to show any signs of disappearing. In fact, it’s still so common that the word “chikan” even appears on the U.K. government’s official online foreign travel advice for Japan.
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So, my only observation on the "short skirts" thing, is that school girls do in fact either alter their uniforms or hike up their skirts by folding them at the top (usually multiple times) to change their knee-length skirts to short skirts.

I do not say this to excuse chikan in any way, merely to observe what I see with my own eyes.
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Interestingly, I watched that video after finding the one I posted. He is correct but is only commenting on the series thus far covered by the anime adaption. The manga is far, far ahead and poor Tomoko has made some, slight, progress. As I noted in the long-winded portion below, she now has friends. Many have "issues" themselves, but part of the point of the series is you rarely find teens without some issues.

Back to the point, despite her fantasies she always wears the longer skirts. Pretty much everyone else wears the shorter to Regulation Pervert Short Anime length. A friend tries to get her to wear her shorter, which includes trying to roll up the hem as you describe. I believe a few years ago you mentioned that 娘様 either tried that or whined about how her longer skirt made her look like a first-year, but ワイフ様 would have none of that. Anyways, Tomoko tries wearing the shorter skirt and absolutely hates it. It reveals a bit of her hypocrisy to herself for reasons that generate a Wall of Text. Though I will give this:
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Truly knowledge to be treasured. You are indeed a River.
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Being bored, but a bit of a language "lesson," in events unfortunately after the anime, Tomoko realizes she has never actually seen the membrum virilis. Part of the more serious joke of the scene I posted is Tomoko has no idea "what" one looks like and, in the manga at one point screams in her mind: "can they bend THAT way?"

So in class she decides to put "penis" in a search on her phone and gets what you imagine. She drops it, it scatters, the teacher finds it . . . hilarity ensues. She lies to people saying a friend sent it to her as a prank and she made the mistake of opening the attachment blah . . . blah.

About a year later, she confesses to the Girl Who Uses the Clinical Term for Mount Pleasant that she lied and she is a "huge/fucking pervert" (ド変態). Said girl responds, "so you looked at dick picks." Tomoko used the more formal term for "dick" so as not to offend the other girl who seems refined. She uses the more offensive slang, probably intentionally to show Tomoko that such is really not a big deal. It is a distinction "lost in translation." I guess they could have used "I actually did search for pictures of guy's genitals," and "you mean you were looking at cock?"

Understand I read this for purely professional reasons to improve my H 日本語.

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"Doctor X wins again." – Pyrrho
"Never sorry to make a racist Fucktard cry." – His Humble MagNIfIcence
"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone." – clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far." – Grammatron
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Shit. That's going to end up in your sig." – Pyrrho
"Try a twelve step program and accept Doctor X as your High Power." – asthmatic camel
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46957515

2020 Olympics: Japanese chains scrap porn magazines
Two of Japan's biggest convenience store chains have said they will stop selling pornographic magazines ahead of the 2019 Rugby World Cup, and the Olympic Games in Tokyo next year.
7-Eleven, which runs more than 20,000 shops in Japan, said it wanted "to create a proper shopping environment for all our customers".
Its rival, Lawson Inc, with some 14,000 stores, made a similar announcement.
Large numbers of tourists are set to visit Japan for both sporting events.