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Some Swiss are at it: http://www.climeworks.com/.

Interestingly it uses waste heat. Let's just hope it can be competitive. They think yes, of course:

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So, plant some fucking trees people! And if they produce fruit you can eat, so much the better.
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sparks wrote: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:18 am So, plant some fucking trees people! And if they produce fruit you can eat, so much the better.
That's a good idea. The only question is where to plant them. Certainly anywhere that trees grow naturally and which isn't being used for other purposes. But how much land like that is there that isn't already covered with forests?
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Anaxagoras wrote: Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:18 am
sparks wrote: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:18 am So, plant some fucking trees people! And if they produce fruit you can eat, so much the better.
That's a good idea. The only question is where to plant them. Certainly anywhere that trees grow naturally and which isn't being used for other purposes. But how much land like that is there that isn't already covered with forests?
There are limits to growth, this would be one of them.
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And then make biofuel out of the plankton.

Carbon neutral.

Now, about those skyscrapers... :roll:
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sparks wrote: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:18 am So, plant some fucking trees people! And if they produce fruit you can eat, so much the better.
Where trees can grow, forest is the so-called "climax" state. Good example: the Mediterranean basin… before sheep and goats.

For now, the situation is:

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Forests are growing again where human well-being is increasing, finds new study.

Only the rich can afford them. :mrgreen:
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How do the trees know where the borders are? Smart trees.
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The good news of late,is that thanks to new measuring ability, and CO2 fertilization, the world actually has 3 trillion more trees than it did in 2012
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i more than 7 times as many trees as there was in 2012
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robinson wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:51 am The good news of late,is that thanks to new measuring ability, and CO2 fertilization, the world actually has 3 trillion more trees than it did in 2012
Source for this?
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Anaxagoras wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:27 am
robinson wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:51 am The good news of late, is that thanks to new measuring ability, and CO2 fertilization, the world actually has 3 trillion more trees than we thought it did in 2012
Source for this?
I fixed it for you.
https://www.tentree.com/blogs/posts/fac ... -years-ago

Essentially, in years prior to 2012, smart folks thought there were about 400 billion trees, but they were only guessing. Then someone actually counted. Turns out we had about 3 trillion, or 7 times more than we thought we did.
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Rob Lister wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:09 am Turns out we had about 3 trillion, or 7 times more than we thought we did.
That's still a guess.

Reality is the planet has about 40 trillion trees.
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robinson wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:09 pm
Rob Lister wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:09 am Turns out we had about 3 trillion, or 7 times more than we thought we did.
That's still a guess.

Reality is the planet has about 40 trillion trees.
WTF man! Stop posting shit. Even when you're technically correct, as in your last post, you make it shit by mischaracterizing it. Be honest and let ed love you.
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They don't count the baby trees. There are way more trees than 3 trillion trees
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On a vacant lot nearby, that used to be mowed, the owner just stopped mowing it. Three years later is it covered in trees. The oldest and most robust are way taller than the newer baby trees. But if you just count the visible ones from a sat photo, you would be seriously wrong about the number of trees. Also due to abundant rain fall and higher CO2 levels, the trees are growing 4 times faster than they did 40 years ago.

Of course you can't count baby trees. But I can.
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I don't see how they can count tress (or anything else) under a forest canopy.
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Because of the idiotic policy of not allowing ANY fires at all, ever, the Smoky mountains are seriously fucked up. Species that need fire, and clearings due to fire, are going extinct. The entire forest is also seriously full of dead wood, and when a fire (from lightning) eventually doesn't get snuffed right away, there is going to be one hell of an un-natural firestorm.
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Which will dump a huge amount of otherwise sequestered CO2 into the atmosphere...
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And make the name of the mountains accurate again.
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Actually the "smoky" part is really condensation or cloud which form under certain conditions. The spooky part is the clouds are very small and isolated and can persist in a location for some time. They look for all the world like the spirits are having a campfire.
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The blue cloud look is almost always there, and is from the volatile organic compounds trees give off, which in combination with water vapor condensate, creates the blue haze that looks like smoke.
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I see it almost every day
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ed wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:14 pm define "tree"
...we define a tree as a plant with woody stems larger than 10 cm diameter at breast height
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... cHpqfZaQcX
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Fid wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:24 am Actually the "smoky" part is really condensation or cloud which form under certain conditions. The spooky part is the clouds are very small and isolated and can persist in a location for some time. They look for all the world like the spirits are having a campfire.
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Rob Lister wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:37 am
ed wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:14 pm define "tree"
...we define a tree as a plant with woody stems larger than 10 cm diameter at breast height
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... cHpqfZaQcX
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So seedlings or saplings don't count. It has to reach a certain stage of maturity to count as a tree.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:08 am
Rob Lister wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:37 am
ed wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:14 pm define "tree"
...we define a tree as a plant with woody stems larger than 10 cm diameter at breast height
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... cHpqfZaQcX
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So seedlings or saplings don't count. It has to reach a certain stage of maturity to count as a tree.
Yes and it appears that the paper's definition is also the common definition.
Merriam-Webster wrote: sapling noun
sap·​ling | \ ˈsa-pliŋ
, -plən\
Definition of sapling

1 : a young tree specifically : one not over four inches (about 10 centimeters) in diameter at breast height
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Good. As long as we are clear on that.
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Yes, it's good we cleared that up
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ed wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:58 am
Fid wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:24 am Actually the "smoky" part is really condensation or cloud which form under certain conditions. The spooky part is the clouds are very small and isolated and can persist in a location for some time. They look for all the world like the spirits are having a campfire.
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