200 Dead On Everest

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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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I think the first day this becomes possible they will build it.
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:03 amdomed observation deck
Where you can laugh and point at the pedestrians freezing to death outside.
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:03 am How about a series of indoor escalators with pressurized cabins and airlocks every so often?
During the cold season (most of the year) it is easier to get to the surface of the moon than to the top of Everest. Actually, even in summer it is simply impossible to get to the top of Everest during a storm.

Men have walked on the moon multiple times. But nobody has ever gone up Everest during a storm, or when it is not summer. It's actually impossible, no matter how much money and effort you spend on it. Even if you could build something up that high, you can't maintain it. Actually, you couldn't even build it. The ice field (glacier) you have to cross is impossible to build a structure on. Which is exactly why you can't build anything. There is no way to build a road to deliver men and materials to even start the project.

You could air lift everything in, but the two month window when you could try and build a base to start building from isn't long enough to build a base to start building. And even if you tried, by the time you get back to the site (10 months later) you face such a massive clearing and repair to the start of the base you end up never making an progress. And of course the powers that be aren't going to approve any of it.

But it's good to have a dream.
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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Just for comparison, Glacier National Park has a road already built, going up to the pass at 6,646 feet. It was a huge effort to build the road. It's cleared and repaired usually by the end of June (rocks and snow and damage), and is open until the first snows in September or October. (it might be the middle of July before it can be cleared)

This is just a road. And it has no guardrails because nothing ever constructed has survived a winter. This is below 7000 feet. Base camp on Everest is at 17,600 ft. Nobody can build anything to even reach that point. Much less try constructing something above it.
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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robinson wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:20 am
Abdul Alhazred wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:03 am How about a series of indoor escalators with pressurized cabins and airlocks every so often?
During the cold season (most of the year) it is easier to get to the surface of the moon than to the top of Everest. Actually, even in summer it is simply impossible to get to the top of Everest during a storm.

Men have walked on the moon multiple times. But nobody has ever gone up Everest during a storm, or when it is not summer. It's actually impossible, no matter how much money and effort you spend on it. Even if you could build something up that high, you can't maintain it. Actually, you couldn't even build it. The ice field (glacier) you have to cross is impossible to build a structure on. Which is exactly why you can't build anything. There is no way to build a road to deliver men and materials to even start the project.

You could air lift everything in, but the two month window when you could try and build a base to start building from isn't long enough to build a base to start building. And even if you tried, by the time you get back to the site (10 months later) you face such a massive clearing and repair to the start of the base you end up never making an progress. And of course the powers that be aren't going to approve any of it.

But it's good to have a dream.
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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The way to control demand is thru pricing. Keep raising fees til the numbers get manageable.

At the same time

Build "Way Station" landing pads every 1000 feet or so and then perfect this


As a side thing make every person entering within 100 miles of Everest get $10,000,000 of term life insurance paid up for two years. Beneficiary is the Everest Development Group (EDG). I figure that anyone who wants to climb Everest is likely to engage in other risky behavior.

You might argue that the air is too thin at higher altitudes to support flight. To this I say "so?" and "piffle". Look at it this way: rich fuckers, who have paid their fees in advance AND have fat life insurance policies, get marooned 12,000 feet up. And the problem with that is what exactly????

Remember:
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My work here is done.
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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Agreed. And on every point. :)

One question though: Are they still good eatin' at 10 thousand feet?
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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They'll keep.
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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AGW ed. AGW. What about that? Huh??? :)
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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Rob Lister wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:05 pmThere are regular reminders in the news just how dangerous climbing Mt. Everest can be, but Smithsonian drives that point home with a look at some of the mountain's more tragic stories. More than 200 people have died on its frozen slopes, and many have ended up preserved in the ice where they fell.
71 more have died since topic was started.
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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16 at once in 2014

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... 014116.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Moun ... _avalanche
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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Note location of base camp.

Note it is impossible to build or maintain a structure there. And it is 2 and a half miles up (elevation) to the peak. It is easier to get to the surface of the moon than the peak of Everest when it is snowing.
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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It is easier to....when ... snow, uphill both ways without shoes and bullshit bullshit bullshit.

Of course. Can't argue with bullshit.
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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robinson wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:20 am
Abdul Alhazred wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:03 am How about a series of indoor escalators with pressurized cabins and airlocks every so often?
During the cold season (most of the year) it is easier to get to the surface of the moon than to the top of Everest. Actually, even in summer it is simply impossible to get to the top of Everest during a storm.

Men have walked on the moon multiple times. But nobody has ever gone up Everest during a storm, or when it is not summer. It's actually impossible, no matter how much money and effort you spend on it. Even if you could build something up that high, you can't maintain it. Actually, you couldn't even build it. The ice field (glacier) you have to cross is impossible to build a structure on. Which is exactly why you can't build anything. There is no way to build a road to deliver men and materials to even start the project.

You could air lift everything in, but the two month window when you could try and build a base to start building from isn't long enough to build a base to start building. And even if you tried, by the time you get back to the site (10 months later) you face such a massive clearing and repair to the start of the base you end up never making an progress. And of course the powers that be aren't going to approve any of it.

But it's good to have a dream.
Not so. Everest has been climbed in all seasons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Eve ... n_climbing
Although generally less popular than spring, Mount Everest has also been climbed in the autumn (also called the "post-monsoon season").[62][269] For example, in 2010 Eric Larsen and five Nepali guides summited Everest in the autumn for the first time in ten years.[269] The first mainland British ascent of Mount Everest (Hillary was from New Zealand), which was also the first ascent via a face rather than a ridge, was the autumn 1975 Southwest Face expedition led by Chris Bonington.[270] The autumn season, when the monsoon ends, is regarded as more dangerous because there is typically a lot of new snow which can be unstable.[271] However, this increased snow can make it more popular with certain winter sports like skiing and snowboarding.[62] Two Japanese also summited in October 1973.[272]

Chris Chandler and Bob Cormack summited Everest in October 1976 as part of the American Bicentennial Everest Expedition that year, the first Americans to make an autumn ascent of Mount Everest according to the Los Angeles Times.[273] By the 21st century, summer and autumn can be more popular with skiing and snowboard attempts on Mount Everest.[274] During the 1980s, climbing in autumn was actually more popular than in spring.[275] U.S. astronaut Karl Gordon Henize died in October 1993 on an autumn expedition, conducting an experiment on radiation. The amount of background radiation increases with higher altitudes.[276]

The mountain has also been climbed in the winter, but that is not popular because of the combination of cold high winds and shorter days.[277] By January the peak is typically battered by 170 mph (270 km/h) winds and the average temperature of the summit is around −33 °F (−36 °C).[62]
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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Elon could do it. He could use his Falcon Heavys to airlift a hyperlink tunnel up to the peak and then drive his Tesla up there and tweet something.
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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Elon could do anything.
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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Of course one can argue with bullshit. It's a defining feature of the internet
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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Elon could kick Chuck Norris's ass with one hand and Captain Kirk's ass with the other.
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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Elon is just another rich blowhard asshole. Not only could Chuck Norris kick the shit out of him, even Bill Shatner could too.
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Re: 200 Dead On Everest

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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:44 pm Best viewed full screen.

Is that Elon in the pilots seat?