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Wrong question. Scientists evaluate data . Data collected to address specific questions.

You are putting the cart before the horse
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Wow !! What a beautiful woman !! When she dies, she will be a spirit! that will interact in our world.
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It is because scientists have already done the work and found nothing.
That is also the reason skeptics do not believe in ghosts, ghoulies, spirits and other such nonsense. There have always been scientists willing to stick their necks out and investigate such things. Literally hundreds of scientific studies have been done. All showed no findings of such things.
Einstein said that insanity was doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Scientists and skeptics are not insane, so we are not going to do the same thing over and over.
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My work here is done
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Flacus wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:43 pm It is because scientists have already done the work and found nothing.
That is also the reason skeptics do not believe in ghosts, ghoulies, spirits and other such nonsense. There have always been scientists willing to stick their necks out and investigate such things. Literally hundreds of scientific studies have been done. All showed no findings of such things.
Einstein said that insanity was doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Scientists and skeptics are not insane, so we are not going to do the same thing over and over.
Forgot who you were logged in as?
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The thread is morphing…

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So I'll slip in a redhead for sparks. :wink:
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This is more sparks' era. Reckon she's been measuring him up...

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Spiritism took root in Brazil with the help of Chico Xavier (1910-2002), a celebrity medium from the state of Minas Gerais. Mediums are another critical aspect of Spiritism; they are those who can communicate with spirits of the afterlife through séances or other means. Xavier, for instance, was renowned for his ability to write letters from the dead to their loved ones (six of which were used as legitimate evidence in murder trials). The charisma and popularity of Xavier contributed to an explosion of Spiritist believers in Brazil.

Today, Brazil is the most Spiritist country in the world. With over 3.8 million believers, Spiritism is the third largest religious group after Catholics and evangelicals. In the city of Palmelo, for example, one in every seven people is a medium. The majority of followers are from my home in Rio de Janeiro, followed closely by São Paulo and Minas Gerais. Interestingly, most Spiritists are highly educated, middle to upper class elites (over 98 percent are literate). This can be attributed to the fact that Spiritistism demands intense personal study and research to be truly understood, as well as a common sentiment that Spiritism is more refined than traditional Catholicism.
https://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/po ... le-spirits

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Dumb as fuck.

What we got here is a real live idiot folks.

Have fun. :)
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Flacus wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:01 pm In a debate each side must prove their assertions. If a skeptic doesn't believe in spirits, he must explain why. Usually his disbelief is based on rejection of the evidence said to demonstrate the existence of spirits. Therefore in a debate, the skeptic is required to justify his position of disbelief by proving that what is asserted to be evidence for the existence of spirits is invalid. He doesn't have to prove spirits don't exist, he only has to prove there is no justification for belief in spirits.
In order for me to argue against the validity of any evidence you have presented, you would first have to prevent evidence, which you have not done. In your own words, please. Not a link to a treatise written by a 19th Century believer in mediums and spirits. That's all been debunked before by others and I'm not going to rehash those arguments. So far, I think you've mentioned yawning and chills, but these are simple physiological phenomena, not evidence of spirits.
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Pyrrho wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:17 am
Flacus wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:43 pm It is because scientists have already done the work and found nothing.
That is also the reason skeptics do not believe in ghosts, ghoulies, spirits and other such nonsense. There have always been scientists willing to stick their necks out and investigate such things. Literally hundreds of scientific studies have been done. All showed no findings of such things.
Einstein said that insanity was doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Scientists and skeptics are not insane, so we are not going to do the same thing over and over.
Forgot who you were logged in as?
Is our friend Flatus now arguing against himself in the same thread or have we caught out a sock puppet here? :notsure:
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Same, tired old shit, different woo. Or not, as the case may be.

Anyway, back to the serious stuff...

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The NBLs help. They make the woo bearable.
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sparks wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:15 am Dumb as fuck.

What we got here is a real live idiot folks.

Have fun. :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoskepticism
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I suppose if I say "It's not my sock" everyone will get suspicious. But I don't do socks, really, it's not my style. If I have something to say I say it.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:06 am Is our friend Flatus now arguing against himself in the same thread or have we caught out a sock puppet here? :notsure:
A sock, I think. Pyrrho spotted his blunder, and his (or her, or its – let's not neglect our AI friends) English has constantly improved, which is weird for somebody allegedly relying on Google translate. (Case in point: coming up with the "neither … nor" construct.)

If not a sock, a singularly uninteresting woo-woo, deaf to questions, no argumentation and only stale references.

And if a sock nevertheless, what staggering lack of imagination, fantasy and humor! Socking is for the fun, right? :roll:
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shemp wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:39 pm I suppose if I say "It's not my sock" everyone will get suspicious. But I don't do socks, really, it's not my style. If I have something to say I say it.
Same, don't see the point and already spend enough time here without having to animate a Doppelgänger.

And I immodestly think I'd do a better job of firing things up, with some mix of gub'ment, gods, guns and girls, say. :lmao:


Also, shemp, one may perhaps think many things of you, but certainly not that you're not outspoken. :wink:
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19th century science made the discovery of spirits! but the empirical evidence that skeptics demand cannot yet be offered by the scientific method! but in the future the scientific method will offer the evidence skeptics demand! It's only a matter of time !
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Why would you waste the time of talented scientists? That was the crime of the Duke group, as well as those fuckers in Princeton. The creative energies of a young generation were wasted.

Why do you love cancer, Flatus?
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Flacus wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:04 pm 19th century science made the discovery of spirits! but the empirical evidence that skeptics demand cannot yet be offered by the scientific method! but in the future the scientific method will offer the evidence skeptics demand! It's only a matter of time !
Fascinating.
Wrong about the past, wrong about the present and wrong about the future all in one post. :De_Bunk:
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↑ sparks wins another redhead:

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Evidence for the afterlife is acceptable even though some of the research took place long ago.
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And yet, dear Friend, you have not been able to produce any evidence yet.
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Not only has he produced none, let's not forget that we'll decide what is acceptable as evidence and what is not, old or new.

It's how science works.
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I have evidence that spirits exist!
when a spirit approaches me I start to yawn! To stop the yawning, I just have to say a prayer or pray that the spirit moves away and the yawning ends! skeptics explain this phenomenon that happens to me?
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OK, I'm convinced.

Yup. Spirits are the only conceivable explanation for yawning. Can't think of any way to refute that. Good work, Flatus. I think your work here is done.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:23 am OK, I'm convinced.

Yup. Spirits are the only conceivable explanation for yawning. Can't think of any way to refute that. Good work, Flatus. I think your work here is done.


I want to know why prayer makes yawning stop? what is the relationship between prayer and yawning?
1- act of yawning
2- prayer or act of prayer!
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Flacus wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:34 am
Anaxagoras wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:23 am OK, I'm convinced.

Yup. Spirits are the only conceivable explanation for yawning. Can't think of any way to refute that. Good work, Flatus. I think your work here is done.


I want to know why prayer makes yawning stop? what is the relationship between prayer and yawning?
1- act of yawning
2- prayer or act of prayer!
You tell us. You're the expert.
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I haven't tried prayer as a cure for yawning but have found that not reading egregious bullshit re. supposed paranormal phenomena definitely works.

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Flacus, who is "Ministro Flacus"?
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