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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:15 pm

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Auschwitz visitors told to stop posing for disrespectful photos at Nazi death camp
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Visitors to Auschwitz, the former Nazi death camp, have been asked to stop posing for photos while balancing on its infamous railway tracks.

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Here's the pic that started the trend.

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Post by robinson » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:42 pm

Most people don't even know what went on there, or even the entire Nazi/Fascist/Commie let's fucking kill millions of people fuck hole evil


Just like every generation, they don't really care about the past
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Post by ed » Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:11 pm

They are unlikely to learn in college, what with taking lesbian interpretive dance and all.
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Post by ceptimus » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:53 am

Most of the killing didn't happen at Auschwitz, but just outside the town at Birkenau where the Nazis built a larger more modern extermination facility when the original one in Auschwitz proved too small.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:40 am

If they are really totally clueless about what Auschwitz was, what are they doing there?

I mean instead of getting drunk and disorderly in Krakow?
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Post by ceptimus » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:51 am

It's a tourist destination, so, as tourists, they're obliged to go there.

I live near Stratford-upon-Avon which gets millions of tourists because it's Shakespeare's birthplace. Probably at least half of the tourists have no interest whatsoever in Shakespeare, but still they come.

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Post by sparks » Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:56 pm

I say we open up the Chernobyl reactor and let them march into it. Could be a good thing for Fukushima too.
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Post by solely » Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:03 pm

If you build it they will come.

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Post by sparks » Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:31 am

A selfie next to the reactor lid holding a big chunk of graphite.

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Post by robinson » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:32 pm

Get a grip
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Post by solely » Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:39 pm

Wrap a roller coaster around the cooling towers at Three Mile Island, toss in some water slides, a see your x-ray exhibit.

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Post by solely » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:40 pm

As far as Auschwitz just be content people aren't grabbing handfuls of soil, or chipping away at the buildings for souvenir.

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Post by robinson » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:54 pm

solely wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:39 pm
Wrap a roller coaster around the cooling towers at Three Mile Island ...
When they say "the basement at Three Mile Island is ...", what is really happening there, is the entire bottom of the reactor building (the basement) is highly radioactive, and they want to wait a hundred years for it to "cool off" enough to try and move the huge amount of radioactive material to somewhere else. Since they have to break up a huge amount of concrete and move it, they actually don't have any idea how to "make safe" the reactor building. Just like Chernobyl, it is just going to be there for a very very long time. Nobody is ever going to move any of it anywhere.
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Post by robinson » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:56 pm

What nobody knew, including the most advanced experts at the time, is what happens when a meltdown happens, and melted fuel gets dissolved in water and then the radioactive material bonds with porous concrete (the basement walls were not sealed), and how do you clean that shit up?

Short answer, you don't.
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Post by sparks » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:06 pm

Provide evidences of you claims regarding Three Mile Island.

There was a partial fuel melt. It did not melt through as at Fukushima. Chernobyl is a whole different mess.
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Post by robinson » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:55 pm

You don't have to have a complete meltdown to have a serious fucking problem with melted fuel. It dissolves in water, and spread to the turbine room, the cooling systems, and of course flooded the entire basement of the building.

The pipes that carry water in and out of a reactor are quite effective at transferring dissolved fuel all over the place. Just a few pounds of spent fuel is enough to seriously fuck up a reactor building. Nobody actually knows how much is in the walls and foundation of Three Mile island. But it's certainly enough that nobody wants to go into the basement.

Much less start jackhammering the concrete apart.
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Post by sparks » Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:17 am

OK, it seems you're right about some of it at least.

Damn shame I had to do your work for you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mil ... d_accident
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Post by robinson » Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:33 pm

Why would anyone make up anything about TMI? It was almost as bad as it gets. Contamination of surrounding habitat, loss of a reactor and building, and a huge fucking radioactive mess nobody even knows how to clean up is pretty much exactly what has happened in every single reactor disaster.

And there have been a lot of reactor disasters.
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Post by sparks » Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:58 am

Didn't say anyone made up anything about TMI. But there is lots of bullshit in the press that has been mis-reported.

As for contamination of surrounding habitat, please expound on that as it relates to TMI. I'm not aware of any.

The reactor building has not been lost, but it does appear to have absorbed radioactivity via the cooling water you mentioned earlier.

No one knows how to clean it up? In the case of TMI, one simply has to wait for the radioactivity to decay to a safe level. Chernobyl and Fukushima will, of course, be a bit more problematic due to the increased severity of the events.

TMI has been defueled according to reliable sources and all the pieces, that is unmelted fuel rod parts and all the shit at the bottom of the pressure vessel now rest, somewhat fitfully if you will, in Idaho at the National Lab.

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Post by robinson » Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:54 pm

sparks wrote:
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As for contamination of surrounding habitat, please expound on that as it relates to TMI. I'm not aware of any.
Of course you are not aware of it.

Just like you don't know the upper part of the reactor building was measuring 1 Sv/hr, and you definitely don't know the Sv/hr of the basement area. Not knowing shit is the hallmark pf nuclear disasters.
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