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Thank you.

Why socialism, Abdul? IOt seemed to me that the whole Brexit thing was a repudiation of increased central authority.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:10 pm According to Boris Johnson, out by Jan 31 for real this time. In my opinion, maybe.

Once Brexit is really really really really achieved, I believe some sort of socialism will be back on the table, but AC appears to be pessimistic.

I'm open to being corrected by any of our UKers, but that's how it looks to me right now.
I'm not pessimistic in the long term but it seems likely the Tories are here for at least the next five years.
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Although we will leave the EU officially on 31st January, nothing much will change until, at the earliest, the end of 2020. A so-called 'transition period' will begin on 1st February.

Almost everything stays the same during the transition period: free movement of goods, services, and people; we still pay money to the EU for the privilege of being a member; and we still have to obey all EU rules and regulations. We won't have any representation in the EU parliament though - all our MEPs and other representatives will be sent home. We can't finalize trade deals with any other country (e.g. USA) - we can negotiate deals, but they can't come into effect until after the transition period. We're also supposed to negotiate a trade deal between the UK and the EU during the transition period - the EU were not, and still are not prepared to discuss this until after we've officially left - an absolutely fucking stupid situation, but that's EU rules for you.

The transition period was originally allowed to be extended for two or three years if both sides agreed, and that's what the EU expected and hoped for. But Boris has said that he won't allow any extension and we'll definitely be completely out just over a year from now.
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we still pay money to the EU for the privilege of being a member;
and we still have to obey all EU rules and regulations.

We won't have any representation in the EU parliament though

hell of a deal you lot negotiated
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ed wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:19 pm we still pay money to the EU for the privilege of being a member;
and we still have to obey all EU rules and regulations.

We won't have any representation in the EU parliament though

hell of a deal you lot negotiated
The EU were very clever negotiators. They only allowed us to negotiate the things they wanted - how much we pay them for leaving (thirty nine billion euros is the current estimate), and what rules will apply to Ireland. The EU flatly refused to talk about what the UK wanted (future trade deal) until after we'd paid them and left.
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ceptimus wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:22 pm
ed wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:19 pm we still pay money to the EU for the privilege of being a member;
and we still have to obey all EU rules and regulations.

We won't have any representation in the EU parliament though

hell of a deal you lot negotiated
The EU were very clever negotiators. They only allowed us to negotiate the things they wanted - how much we pay them for leaving (thirty nine billion euros is the current estimate), and what rules will apply to Ireland. The EU flatly refused to talk about what the UK wanted (future trade deal) until after we'd paid them and left.
At that point May should have threatened no-deal but she caved
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ceptimus wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:22 pm
ed wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:19 pm we still pay money to the EU for the privilege of being a member;
and we still have to obey all EU rules and regulations.

We won't have any representation in the EU parliament though

hell of a deal you lot negotiated
The EU were very clever negotiators. They only allowed us to negotiate the things they wanted - how much we pay them for leaving (thirty nine billion euros is the current estimate), and what rules will apply to Ireland. The EU flatly refused to talk about what the UK wanted (future trade deal) until after we'd paid them and left.
Well ... you could have interned every froggie in London and negotiated a price for letting them go.

It is pretty remarkable though. Do they have leverage? Seems the PR leverage is all on your side. This has to make the Poles et al a bit restive.
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and who the hell is actually calling the shots?

Don't tell me it's the bloody krauts.

Is It?
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ed wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:44 pm and who the hell is actually calling the shots?

Don't tell me it's the bloody krauts.

Is It?
It’s gonna leave such a hole in their budget they’ll soon be sour krauts
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Any EU member country has a legally binding agreement with the EU under international law. The EU knows that any EU country that just unilaterally leaves would be breaking international law, and that any third countries would be unwilling or at least reluctant to deal with that country breaking international law.

Even if a third country were prepared to do that, the EU would retaliate hard against that country - so it's only countries that have no significant trade with the EU that would be prepared to take the risk - and I don't think there are any such countries.
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They'll be out in a year anyway. That would be silly. As ceptimus explained and I understand it, the transition period begins February 1st, and Brexit will happen January 1st, 2021. Negotiations over the final trade agreement, etc. begin when the transition period begins. That's going to be the tricky part.
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Giz wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:36 pm
ceptimus wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:22 pm
ed wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:19 pm we still pay money to the EU for the privilege of being a member;
and we still have to obey all EU rules and regulations.

We won't have any representation in the EU parliament though

hell of a deal you lot negotiated
The EU were very clever negotiators. They only allowed us to negotiate the things they wanted - how much we pay them for leaving (thirty nine billion euros is the current estimate), and what rules will apply to Ireland. The EU flatly refused to talk about what the UK wanted (future trade deal) until after we'd paid them and left.
At that point May should have threatened no-deal but she caved
May did not have the backing to do anything.

Europe quickly realized this.

– J.D.
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Tommy Cooper Comedian. Born in Caerphilly, Wales in 1922, he moved to Exeter in the first few months of his life. He was noted for his trademark fez
Conjures up Jerry.
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MI6 building plans go missing: Construction giant Balfour Beatty is sacked from refurbishment of Secret Service headquarters after major security breach saw layout and alarm details lost
  • Balfour Beatty was let go after more than 100 blueprints went missing from MI6
  • They included details about the layout of new building and alarm systems
  • Building in Vauxhall Cross, London, is famous for being in James Bond films
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... plans.html
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@TerribleMaps
Map of every pub in the UK.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:18 pm Jerry Lewis? Or that more recent Jerry who is not funny?

Is he a Shriner? Or just doing shtick?
Tommy Cooper, who was a real funny guy, as opposed to Jerry Lewis.

Also died during a live stage act. People though it was part of the routine.
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Doctor X wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:15 am
Giz wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:36 pm
ceptimus wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:22 pm
ed wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:19 pm we still pay money to the EU for the privilege of being a member;
and we still have to obey all EU rules and regulations.

We won't have any representation in the EU parliament though

hell of a deal you lot negotiated
The EU were very clever negotiators. They only allowed us to negotiate the things they wanted - how much we pay them for leaving (thirty nine billion euros is the current estimate), and what rules will apply to Ireland. The EU flatly refused to talk about what the UK wanted (future trade deal) until after we'd paid them and left.
At that point May should have threatened no-deal but she caved
May did not have the backing to do anything.

Europe quickly realized this.

– J.D.
Not to divert things but the analogy can be drawn between Obama and the mideast and Russia. Weak leaders with no leverage get trod upon.
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Edvard Benes, look him up.
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London underground (1860 – 1960):

https://i.imgur.com/Dc4icy7.jpg
Gloucester Road Station under construction, 1866

https://i.imgur.com/Za3xsxZ.jpg
Chancellor William Ewart Gladstone on an inspection tour of the world’s first underground line, 24th May 1862.

https://i.imgur.com/XxFJrlk.jpg
London tram workers queue up for their pay at the tram subway in Kingsway, High Holborn, 1926.

https://i.imgur.com/Ew7S19d.jpg
Tea on the Tube, 1968.

Lots more pics: https://www.bygonely.com/london-undergr ... 60s-1960s/
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And what it's like now...

https://i.imgur.com/ikYF6W4.jpg
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Fascinating maps show huge divide between younger and older voters in general election

https://i.imgur.com/auF3Oix.jpg

Twitter account Election Maps UK compiled how different age groups, ranging from 18 to 24s to over 65s, voted in the election – and what the result would have been if only one age group had voted.

The December poll ended in a Boris Johnson’s Conservative Party winning a huge majority of 80 – the biggest the Tories have secured since Margaret Thatcher in the 1987 election.

Labour suffered a humiliating defeat, taking just 203 seats – the smallest number of seats the party has won since the 1935 election.

The SNP performed strongly, winning 48 of 59 seats in Scotland, while the Lib Dems only managed a disappointing 11.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 23171.html
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I think youngsters have always tended to be more left wing and radical than older people.

It will be interesting to see whether or not the current generation of youngsters change their views to the right as they gain more maturity and experience: if they don't, then we can expect future Labour governments in place of the currently dominant Conservatives.
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UK censors all Saudi Arabia conversations from latest release of cabinet minutes

Sensitive discussions by British government ministers about Saudi Arabia which likely involve controversial arms deals have been censored from a series of newly declassified files, raising more questions about oversight of one of the UK’s deepest alliances.

The cabinet minutes from 1996, released under Britain’s declassification rules, contain details of weekly meetings held by then-prime minister John Major and his Conservative ministers. Saudi Arabia was discussed on three separate occasions that year, according to the cabinet agendas.

However, the minutes of these discussions have all been redacted and remain censored, in the latest sign that British officials want to keep secret details of their relationship with the authoritarian Saudi regime.

Labour MP Lloyd Russell-Moyle told Declassified UK: “The fact that even now the British public can’t see the level of cooperation between our country and Saudi Arabia shows that the British authorities must be worried that the full truth would disturb many sensible patriotic Brits.”

Russell-Moyle, who has sat on parliament’s arms export committee, added: “It is time that this relationship be exposed and ended whilst the Saudi Arabian coalition continue to bomb and destroy the Yemen, harbour international terrorism and destabilise the Middle East.”
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article ... t-minutes/ for details.
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England’s first wild beaver colony in centuries is ‘helping communities and climate’

Animals have created ‘beautiful areas of new habitat’, says Devon Wildlife Trust

England’s first beavers to live in the wild in 400 years are positively affecting the community and the environment, experts have said.

The animals, who unexpectedly appeared along the River Otter in Devon more than a decade ago, are being monitored to determine whether they benefit the local area and should continue living there.

The beavers have significantly reduced water flow, a researcher has said, which means their dams can potentially reduce the risk of flooding.

Professor Richard Brazier from the University of Exeter said research shows plant and animal life is also flourishing in their ponds, which catch sediment and inorganic fertilisers washed from farmland.

The beavers have also drawn tourists to the area, helping local commerce.
https://www.independent.co.uk/environme ... 67331.html
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I presume it's a "wild" reintroduction. (And I'm quite sure locally everybody knows about it.) But there are laws:
While the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA) were initially concerned the beavers could carry deadly diseases, they tested the animals and allowed them to live freely along the Devonshire riverside as part of a five-year trial.

Plans for the trial were originally initiated by the Devon Wildlife Trust and were also backed by locals. The Trust explain that there are now at least seven breeding pairs, with possibly as many as 13 beaver families living on the river.

"We are committed to reintroducing formerly native species, including beavers, where there are clear environmental and socio-economic benefits. A decision on any future work following the River Otter project will be taken after its conclusion," a spokesperson for DEFRA told The Independent, hailing their success.
https://www.countryliving.com/uk/wildli ... vironment/
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Government set to cut £70 a week from thousands of state pensions

Thousands of retired Britons who have someone depending on them are set to lose £70 a week from April

The Government is taking £33million away from people's pensions as they end the allowance for adult dependents.

Designed to help people with someone else relying on them, the benefit is worth £70 a week, but will stop being paid in April.

Steve Webb, Royal London policy director, said: "Under the old state pension system, people claiming a retirement pension could get a significant extra amount for a spouse who was financially dependent upon them."

Royal London launched a Freedom of Information request to find out just how many people would lose out - discovering 11,000 pensioners are still in receipt of the cash.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/no ... k-17512246
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I read about that, Witness. It's pretty mean-spirited to suddenly withdraw a benefit that hasn't been available to new claimants for a while and would soon not have been payable to anyone anyway as people age.
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asthmatic camel wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:20 pm I read about that, Witness. It's pretty mean-spirited to suddenly withdraw a benefit that hasn't been available to new claimants for a while and would soon not have been payable to anyone anyway as people age.
Aaaaaaand won't be there to vote: throw them to the dogs.

I fear the poor will get screwed hard these next years. :|
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Top cop: UK risks 'Orwellian, omniscient police state'

The UK risks becoming a "ghastly, Orwellian, omniscient police state", according to London's top police officer.

Cressida Dick, Commissioner of London's Metropolitan Police Service, called on law enforcement to confront ethical dilemmas posed by data, robotics and artificial intelligence.

She told an audience at the Lowy Institute in Sydney, Australia, that data is vital, but only to help humans "to make better decisions".

In comments reported by The Sydney Morning Herald, Ms Dick said: "We're now tiptoeing into a world of robotics, AI and machine learning... the next step might be predictive policing.

"People are starting to get worried about that... particularly because of the potential for bias in the data or the algorithm, [like] live facial recognition software."

There are already more than 600,000 CCTV cameras in London, according to CCTV.co.uk, making the city one of the most closely watched in the world.

And in June, Ms Dick used a speech at the Police Foundation to call for better use of data and public consent to avoid charges of a "police state".
https://news.sky.com/story/top-cop-uk-r ... e-11801100
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Reynhard Sinaga: 'Evil sexual predator' jailed for life for 136 rapes
A man convicted of 159 sex offences, including 136 rapes, will "never be safe to be released", a judge has said.

Reynhard Sinaga was found guilty of luring 48 men from outside Manchester clubs to his flat, where he drugged and assaulted them - filming the attacks.

Police say they have evidence Sinaga, 36, who is being named for the first time, targeted at least 190 victims.

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said Sinaga was "the most prolific rapist in British legal history".

The judge ruled his life sentence must include a minimum of 30 years in jail.

Reporting restrictions were also lifted at a sentencing hearing at Manchester Crown Court on Monday, meaning Sinaga could be identified for the first time.

The post-graduate student was already serving life, with a minimum term of 20 years, for the offences he was convicted of in two earlier trials, which took place in summer 2018 and last spring.

Across four separate trials, the Indonesian national was found guilty of 136 counts of rape, eight counts of attempted rape, 14 counts of sexual assault, and one count of assault by penetration, against a total of 48 victims.

Detectives say they have been unable to identify a further 70 victims and are now appealing for anyone who believes they may have been abused by Sinaga to come forward.

At the hearing, Judge Suzanne Goddard QC said Sinaga was "an evil serial sexual predator who has preyed upon young men" who wanted "nothing more than a good night out with their friends".

"In my judgment you are a highly dangerous, cunning and deceitful individual who will never be safe to be released," she said - adding that the decision to release prisoners is made by the Parole Board.

Sinaga would wait for men leaving nightclubs and bars before leading them to his flat in Montana House, Princess Street, often with the offer of somewhere to have a drink or call a taxi.

He drugged his victims before assaulting them while they were unconscious. When the victims woke up many of them had no memory of what had happened.

The student, who denied the charges, had claimed all the sexual activity was consensual and that each man had agreed to being filmed while pretending to be asleep - a defence described by the judge as "ludicrous".

At an earlier sentencing, the judge said she was sure that Sinaga had used a form of date rape drug such as GHB.
Here's a story about how he operated:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50688975
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For our railway aficionados:
South Western Railway may be nationalised after firm loses £137m

Accounts show joint venture between FirstGroup and MTR could go bust before end of 2020

The strike-hit South Western Railway (SWR) franchise faces the prospect of nationalisation after its accounts revealed “significant doubt” that it could see out the year without going bust.

The train company’s directors said it was uncertain that it could fulfil the terms of its franchise, while a £146m cash injection from its parent groups was likely to be used up before the end of 2020.

Filings to Companies House from December, published on Tuesday, showed that the train operator, a joint venture between FirstGroup and the Hong Kong-based MTR, lost £137m in the year to March 2019.

SWR directors said in the accounts there was “material uncertainty that may cast significant doubt on the company’s ability to continue as a going concern”. The company’s auditors, Deloitte, signed off the accounts but highlighted the directors’ statement.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... loses-137m
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Saving the UK:
After Britain appeals for weirdos, spoon bender Uri Geller applies

LONDON (Reuters) - Spoon-bending celebrity psychic Uri Geller, 73, has applied for a job in the British government in response to an advert for “misfits” and “weirdos”, saying no other candidate would possess his powers.

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s most senior adviser, Dominic Cummings, advertised government jobs for “assorted weirdos” in a recent blog post, complaining that the civil service did not have enough genuine cognitive diversity.

In a cover letter beginning “Dear Dom”, Geller said that his career as an entertainer has been the “perfect mask” for his work in espionage.

“While many have doubted my abilities, my achievements cannot be dismissed as trickery or illusions,” said the Israeli, who became famous in the 1970s for performing telekinetic feats on television, such as bending spoons without touching them.

“In my intelligence work I assisted with Operation Desert Storm, helped to locate secret tunnels in North Korea, and used my skills to erase crucial diplomatic discs on their way to Moscow,” he said.

Geller recently said he had used his powers to help Johnson win last month’s election by giving his aides a spoon enthused with positive energy.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-brita ... KKBN1Z71JY
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Now to the Important Things©:

'Rogue royals'? Pundits furious over Harry and Meghan's step back

Announcement by pair that they are stepping back from public life brings hysterical response

https://i.imgur.com/6jwJwk0.jpg

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s decision to step back from public life has provoked vitriolic attacks on the couple and hyperbolic predictions on what it could mean for the monarchy.

The announcement came after Prince Harry and Meghan criticised media intrusion and launched legal action against the Mail on Sunday. This, along with reports that the couple’s decision has upset the Queen, appears to have fuelled the ferocity of the reaction.

Meghan and Harry are “the two most spoiled brats in history”, according to broadcaster and former Mirror editor, Piers Morgan.

After the news broke on Wednesday night, Morgan launched a Twitter tirade against Meghan and Harry that has continued on Thursday. He said the death of his mother Diana did not give Harry “licence to treat the Queen so appallingly”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... al-rupture


He has to work on his smile, I'd say. :notsure:
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Boys and girls 'unlawfully segregated' at Islamic school - head says it's what parents of faith want

Redstone Academy in Balsall Heath is not meeting equality laws by teaching boys and girls separately - but head disputes findings

A Birmingham school is unlawfully segregating boys and girls - with boys given privileges and treated more favourably than girls, according to a critical Ofsted report.

Inspectors who visited the fee-paying Redstone Educational Academy last month found the Islamic-faith school teaches boys and girls in separate classes, despite being told over a year ago that doing so defied equality legislation.

The school, in Balsall Heath, was also openly favouring boys by giving them first choice of work experience options and by barring girls from some sports, claims the report.

Boys and girls take separate school trips, with the girls having to wear school uniform on those trips while the boys did not.

"University is not for females"

One group of pupils told inspectors a member of staff, who has since left, had told them: "University is not for females."

The report concluded: "Leaders are aware that segregating pupils by gender is unlawful and that they are in breach of the Equality Act 2010.

"They recently applied to open a separate girls’ school on the same premises but were unsuccessful."

The school's head Saadat Rasool disputed Ofsted's findings and defended the segregation practices, which he said were in line with the Muslim faith of parents.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/m ... c-17519704
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Jacob Rees-Mogg announces extra month's holiday for MPs

MPS are to be given an extra month's holiday this year compared to 2019, the most days of downtime since Brexit took over the parliamentary agenda.

The Commons will be in recess for 64 working days this year – not including conference season and the Christmas break, which has yet to be announced.

It's the most days MPs have had off since 2014.

The bumper breaks mean Boris Johnson will have fewer sessions of Prime Minister's Questions and ministers won't have as many departmental questions sittings.

It will give Parliamentary committees less time to scrutinise Government decisions through the year.

Last year the Commons was in recess for just 46 working days, excluding the dissolution for the General Election.

Commons Leader Jacob Rees-Mogg said MPs would take a two-week break in February, which was not taken last year so Parliament could concentrate on Brexit.

Both the summer and Easter recesses are a full week longer than 2019. At 35 working days, MPs' summer holiday this year will be the longest since 2009.

Many MPs use the recess to catch up on constituency work – but they are free to use the time as they wish.

The average holiday entitlement for British workers is 33.5 days.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/18149 ... idays-mps/
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Harry Dunn death: US says extradition request 'highly inappropriate'

The US has said an extradition request for the woman charged with the death of teenager Harry Dunn is "highly inappropriate".

It comes after Home Secretary Priti Patel formally sent an extradition notice to the US Justice Department for Anne Sacoolas over the accident which killed the 19-year-old.

Mrs Sacoolas left the UK after the car she was driving hit Mr Dunn's motorbike outside RAF Croughton in Northamptonshire in August.

In December, she was charged by the Crown Prosecution Service with death by dangerous driving.

She is still in the US having claimed diplomatic immunity shortly after the accident. Her husband is a diplomat, thought to be a US intelligence officer.

A US State Department spokesperson expressed "deepest sympathies" for the family and said it the country continues "to look for options for moving forward".

However, they maintained that Mrs Sacoolas had immunity at the time of the incident and that extraditing her "would establish an extraordinarily troubling precedent".
https://news.sky.com/story/anne-sacoola ... h-11905753
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Police call for ban on anonymous pay-as-you-go phones

Police inspectorate says ban would help combat county lines drug operations

Police want a ban on the anonymous purchase of pay-as-you-go mobile phones to help tackle county lines drug dealers, a report reveals.

The report by the police inspectorate says criminals get round laws meant to restrict their activities by being able to buy phones or sim cards without the need to prove their identity.

Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary in the report on the law enforcement response to county lines says the government should start a review.

As part of county lines, phone lines are set up by drugs gangs for users to call and also involves urban drug gangs operating in smaller towns and rural areas to boost their profits.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... -go-phones
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Re: The UK thread

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Witness wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:09 am
Police call for ban on anonymous pay-as-you-go phones

Police inspectorate says ban would help combat county lines drug operations

Police want a ban on the anonymous purchase of pay-as-you-go mobile phones to help tackle county lines drug dealers, a report reveals.

The report by the police inspectorate says criminals get round laws meant to restrict their activities by being able to buy phones or sim cards without the need to prove their identity.

Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary in the report on the law enforcement response to county lines says the government should start a review.

As part of county lines, phone lines are set up by drugs gangs for users to call and also involves urban drug gangs operating in smaller towns and rural areas to boost their profits.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... -go-phones
We should probably cc the police on all our emails too. After all, we have nothing to hide.
ed
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Re: The UK thread

Post by ed »

Giz wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:00 am
Witness wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:09 am
Police call for ban on anonymous pay-as-you-go phones

Police inspectorate says ban would help combat county lines drug operations

Police want a ban on the anonymous purchase of pay-as-you-go mobile phones to help tackle county lines drug dealers, a report reveals.

The report by the police inspectorate says criminals get round laws meant to restrict their activities by being able to buy phones or sim cards without the need to prove their identity.

Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary in the report on the law enforcement response to county lines says the government should start a review.

As part of county lines, phone lines are set up by drugs gangs for users to call and also involves urban drug gangs operating in smaller towns and rural areas to boost their profits.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... -go-phones
We should probably cc the police on all our emails too. After all, we have nothing to hide.
Don't we already?