Win7 and large drives

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Re: Win7 and large drives

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I agree. It really ain't all that bad. It does have some lock-in quirks that irk me but they're not overwhelming. It's certainly more stable than Win7, fucked-to-hell updates withstanding.

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Rob Lister wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:28 pm
lock-in quirks
Specifically?
Rob Lister wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:28 pm
fucked-to-hell updates
Had no problems for quite some time now. But then it can be pretty machine dependent.

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Specifically, one-drive always reminding me it exists, even after I delete it. Inability to delete I.E. and it constantly deciding I need it; opening on startup for example. Power management, wifi settings, network settings, etc, constantly reverting from settings I explicitly make, games (links really) constantly showing back up in my start menu even after I explicitly delete them. Other shit. Yada. A lot of little shit that's easy to fix, for a while, until it unfixes itself. It's more irksome than a pain.

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Weird. Never had any of your problems. WiFi was dead/flaky after an update, but works splendidly since I reverted to the W8 driver.

Have you tried uninstalling stuff with Powershell instead of the Windows applet? Or used a dedicated tool which also scrubs the registry and remaining files?

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Is there a way to make everything go away except calculator and settings and never, ever come back? :)
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Witness wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:15 am
Weird. Never had any of your problems. WiFi was dead/flaky after an update, but works splendidly since I reverted to the W8 driver.

Have you tried uninstalling stuff with Powershell instead of the Windows applet? Or used a dedicated tool which also scrubs the registry and remaining files?
I've tried various stuff across various laptops. But mostly I've resigned to just put up with it.
sparks wrote:Is there a way to make everything go away except calculator and settings and never, ever come back? :)
Probably, with some exceptions (like IE) The question really becomes, is it worth bothering, other than as a matter of principle. An example of 'principle' would be making the mistake of installing adobe cloud, trying to uninstall it, and then spending a full day getting all its hooks and tentacles it put every-fucking-where. It had to be done as a matter of principle, but it weren't pretty.

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↑ Getting older we are getting wiser. More wise than old, I hope. :P

With my first laptop came a "free" Norton security CD, which I naively installed. Tried to get rid of it after the requisite 30 days trial when it started nagging me. Oh boy!
But it was a matter of principle for me too.



Now the real question is: what will sparks do?!? :)

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If I can't make the large drive work, I'll get a 2TB and reload Win7 and rebuild from there.

Haven't given up on loading Win7 on a UEFI system just yet.
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Persistence and tenacity are good qualities. You Go Girl.

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Too late now that you've bought the drive, but I use a 500 GB SSD for Windoze, programs and work in progress and three old style 1 terabyte slaves for storage/backups. Works out a lot cheaper with little noticeable difference in speed.
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Yes, but I'm a psychotic purist AC.

"I MUST HAVE TEH ABSOLUTE POWAH...because...it makes me feel all tingly and such!!!"

I'd planned on dividing up the 4TB drive much like you've described your setup: 500GB for C: System and the rest for D: GoatPornz
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↑ That's what I would try. Install W7 in a small partition then let it work its magic as MS describes it in the link I posted to get full access.

BTW, 500 GB for the system seems a lot: on my desktop W10 lives happily in 128, using up 54 as of today. (Being contrarian I moved documents and software elsewhere so as to leave it alone as much as possible. And Microsoft's pre-installed folders piss me off as I organize things differently.)

Now pounce on that thing! :wink:

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Well, two issues here. First is under BIOS, the installation will run normally but total (and this is all you can partition) is limited to 2Tb.

Second is after jumping through all the hoops to boot UEFI, the installation (dvd or iso) hangs when Windoze starts.
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