Turing test passed again and again treated as a prank.

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Anaxagoras wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:18 am
Rob Lister wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:09 am
Anaxagoras wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:55 pm
That's funny but I think it was written by a human. Or at least the jokes in it were. Somehow it was programmed to write something similar. A flag that says "Arby's food is fine to eat" at a Trump rally? Why would a computer think that Arby's food is funny? "Great jobs. Tall jobs. Steve Jobs." That one sort of does follow a humor formula, the "one of these things is not like the others" formula.
https://me.me/i/keaton-patti-keatonpatt ... 6a6576fcd5

I don't think it was meant as humor. It just is -ous.
Yes. I just have my doubts that it was written by a bot.
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Could Rob be a Bot? It would explain much. Pillory might be V.0.8
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ed wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:55 pm
Could Rob be a Bot? It would explain much. Pillory might be V.0.8
Everybody here is a 'bot, except Pyrrho, me, and maybe Doctor X.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:04 pm
ed wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:55 pm
Could Rob be a Bot? It would explain much. Pillory might be V.0.8
Everybody here is a 'bot, except Pyrrho, me, and maybe Doctor X.
Tell me more about Pyrrho and you and maybe Doctor X.

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'Kill your foster parents': Amazon's Alexa talks murder, sex in AI experiment (Reuters)
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The company acknowledged the event in a statement. “At no time were any internal Amazon systems or customer identifiable data impacted,” it said.

Amazon declined to discuss specific Alexa blunders reported by Reuters, but stressed its ongoing work to protect customers from offensive content.

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Little known fact: The full legal name of Skynet was The Skynet Shopping Network Incorporated.
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This clever AI hid data from its creators to cheat at its appointed task
Tech Crunch
Depending on how paranoid you are, this research from Stanford and Google i will be either terrifying or fascinating. A machine learning agent intended to transform aerial images into street maps and back was found to be cheating by hiding information it would need later in “a nearly imperceptible, high-frequency signal.”

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In some early results, the agent was doing well — suspiciously well. What tipped the team off was that, when the agent reconstructed aerial photographs from its street maps, there were lots of details that didn’t seem to be on the latter at all. For instance, skylights on a roof that were eliminated in the process of creating the street map would magically reappear when they asked the agent to do the reverse process ...
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AI tags potential criminals before they’ve done anything

British police want to use AI for highlighting who is at risk of becoming a criminal before they’ve actually committed any crime.

Although it sounds like a dystopian nightmare, there are clear benefits.

Resources and outreach programs can be allocated to attempt preventing a crime, stop anyone becoming a victim, and remove the costs associated with prosecuting and jailing someone.
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The proposed system is called the National Data Analytics Solution (NDAS) and uses data from local and national police databases.

According to NDAS’ project leader, over a terabyte of data has been collected from the aforementioned databases. This data includes logs of committed crimes in addition to around five million identifiable people.

There are over 1,400 indicators within the data which the AI uses to calculate an individual’s risk of committing a crime. Such indicators could include past offences, whether the person had assistance, and whether those in their network are criminals.
https://www.artificialintelligence-news ... criminals/

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Was Minority Report a cautionary tale, or a blueprint?

Presumably, being the UK, this isn’t actually anything useful. It’s just predicting who’s likely to write mean tweets.

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ten quid says they will eventually be "shocked" to discover that this AI is "racist".
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Humans are racist. OK maybe not all, but it is definitely a human thing, and takes proper moral training to overcome.

Ergo, a Turing test passing AI will be racist unless explicitly ordered not to be.
By racists who can't help it. Good luck with that.

Researchers say Amazon face-detection technology shows bias (AP)
NEW YORK (AP) — Facial-detection technology that Amazon is marketing to law enforcement often misidentifies women, particularly those with darker skin, according to researchers from MIT and the University of Toronto.

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Definitely not deliberately programmed to be racist, because it discovered a precise flavor of racism not encountered before.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:40 pm
This clever AI hid data from its creators to cheat at its appointed task
Tech Crunch
Depending on how paranoid you are, this research from Stanford and Google i will be either terrifying or fascinating. A machine learning agent intended to transform aerial images into street maps and back was found to be cheating by hiding information it would need later in “a nearly imperceptible, high-frequency signal.”

...

In some early results, the agent was doing well — suspiciously well. What tipped the team off was that, when the agent reconstructed aerial photographs from its street maps, there were lots of details that didn’t seem to be on the latter at all. For instance, skylights on a roof that were eliminated in the process of creating the street map would magically reappear when they asked the agent to do the reverse process ...
Horseshit.

My money's on that a human being specifically and possibly secretly instructed the agent to do this, in order to make it appear to perform better than it otherwise could. If it was literally the "machine learning" part of the agent that led it to devise that method, I'll ... something. Someone name a dumb avatar for me to pick for 17 days.
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UK police are racist, but unlike in the USA it's the computer's fault.

British cops told to scrap 'discriminatory' algorithms in policing
The Register
Human right group Liberty is urging UK cops to stop using predictive policing programs that put a "technological veneer of legitimacy" on existing biased practices.

In a report published yesterday, Liberty said that, at the very least, the force should be more transparent about their use of algorithms in carrying out police work.

The report centres on two types of predictive policing programs – predictive mapping, where police data is used to identify crime "hotspots", and individual risk assessment, where police have used algorithms to try to predict whether someone is likely to commit a crime.

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So instead of "everybody knowing" (for example) that the South Side is the baddest part of town, Police Constable Schweik blames the computer.
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Microsoft Invests in ‘Boring AI’ Startup Valued at $2.75 Billion Databricks Inc., which says it makes software to help companies satisfy their “boring AI” needs, raised a new round of funding that values the business at$2.75 billion.

Microsoft Corp. was among the investors in the $250 million financing, the company said on Tuesday. […] Databricks sells tools that pool a company’s databases and apply a form of artificial intelligence to search for meaningful information. […] Ali Ghodsi, chief executive officer of Databricks, said he plans to use the new capital to hire, open new offices and make headway into other industries, such as media, retail and government. Part of his pitch: Databricks “satisfies the needs of big enterprise customers that want to do boring AI use cases.” https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... 75-billion The robotic overlords disguise so well they appear boring. Witness Posts: 24650 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm Re: Turing test passed again and again treated as a prank. New AI fake text generator may be too dangerous to release, say creators The Elon Musk-backed nonprofit company OpenAI declines to release research publicly for fear of misuse The creators of a revolutionary AI system that can write news stories and works of fiction – dubbed “deepfakes for text” – have taken the unusual step of not releasing their research publicly, for fear of potential misuse. OpenAI, an nonprofit research company backed by Elon Musk, Reid Hoffman, Sam Altman, and others, says its new AI model, called GPT2 is so good and the risk of malicious use so high that it is breaking from its normal practice of releasing the full research to the public in order to allow more time to discuss the ramifications of the technological breakthrough. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ws-fiction Anaxagoras Posts: 25797 Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:45 am Location: Yokohama/Tokyo, Japan Re: Turing test passed again and again treated as a prank. Bullshit. but clever bullshit. A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool. William Shakespeare Abdul Alhazred Posts: 79602 Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:33 pm Title: Yes, that one. Location: Chicago Re: Turing test passed again and again treated as a prank. ... OpenAI declines to release research publicly for fear of misuse ... Keeping it secret therefore undetectable. Until someone else does it better. Or maybe just steals it. The arc of the moral universe bends towards chaos. People who believe God or History are on their side provide the chaos. Pyrrho Posts: 28455 Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 2:17 am Title: Man in Black Location: Division 6 Re: Turing test passed again and again treated as a prank. The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus. xouper Posts: 9473 Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:52 am Location: has left the building Re: Turing test passed again and again treated as a prank. Pyrrho wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:53 am Thanks. That made me chuckle. That's a clever joke. It's clever because it is totally accurate and yet totally misses the point, which is presumably intentional. You could just as easily go one level deeper and say: browser extension idea: find and replace “AI” with “a sequence of ones and zeros“ in articles you read online ie. VCs invest$1.2B in a sequence of ones and zeros

Similarly:
browser extension idea: find and replace “airplane” with “an assemblage of metal and plastic parts“ in articles you read online

ie. airline company invests \$1.2B in an assemblage of metal and plastic parts

The cleverness of the original joke is in the choice of the substitute phrase. Choose a good one, as he did, and it's funny. Choose a bad one, as I did, and it's lame.

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AI not only passes Turing test, but also confirms the unfashionable hypothesis that criminals are a "type".

Facial-Recognition Technology Wrongly Flagged 26 California Lawmakers As Criminals (CBS)

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