What's killing us this week?
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Anaxagoras wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:20 am I wonder if it's worse that a typical flu virus. Just how concerned should we really be about it?
I guess that means they're still trying to determine that. I know there have been deaths from this, but lots of people die every year from the flu too.The new coronavirus appears to cause symptoms like fever, cough, difficulty breathing, and other respiratory symptoms. It causes severe illness in around a quarter of cases, and can be deadly. Public health officials are working to understand how dangerous this virus is, how fast it’s spreading, and how to contain it. As that work continues, the virus is causing anxiety around the world.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/24/2108 ... cdc-spread
A new coronavirus that has spread to almost 2,000 people is infectious in its incubation period - before symptoms show - making it harder to contain, Chinese officials say.
Some 56 people have died from the virus. Health minister Ma Xiaowei told reporters the ability of the virus to spread appeared to be strengthening.
Several Chinese cities have imposed significant travel restrictions.
Wuhan in Hubei, the source of the outbreak, is in effective lockdown.
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Anaxagoras wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:20 am I wonder if it's worse that a typical flu virus. Just how concerned should we really be about it?
I guess that means they're still trying to determine that. I know there have been deaths from this, but lots of people die every year from the flu too.The new coronavirus appears to cause symptoms like fever, cough, difficulty breathing, and other respiratory symptoms. It causes severe illness in around a quarter of cases, and can be deadly. Public health officials are working to understand how dangerous this virus is, how fast it’s spreading, and how to contain it. As that work continues, the virus is causing anxiety around the world.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/24/2108 ... cdc-spread
My question as well.
I’m not usually too worried about these things. But I just read that China is trying to quarantine something like 40 million people in the Wuhan region. WTF? That sounds kind of serious. (Ha. Ha.)
This comes of course right in the middle of final exams and, even worse, entrance exam season where I’m supposed to walk all around among these coughing disease vectors, university revenue generators applicants.
Also, I’d sort of like to get on a plane when it’s all done.
Just the “media” pumping another “Summer of the Shark” type of story or is it really serious, stay away from airports at all costs?
If I suddenly stop posting, I guess we’ll know it was serious after all. Ha. Ha.
By the way, the Olympics are coming to Japan this summer. Ha. Ha.
ETA: This article now says 56 million in quarantine.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10817933/ ... own-china/
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Piffle, they already quarantined ~ 1 million Uyghurs till they become good little Hans just as warm up; and I wouldn't be astonished if Xi found it a useful test for very different scenarios…
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I read that the Chinese were monitoring people with thermal imaging in airports and detaining those who had an elevated temperature. Good thing I won't be traveling in China. I'm always hot and so is my son. When we were at the Boston Science Museum, our skin glowed white on the thermal imaging camera, even our eyes and fingertips, and we weren't even sick. In China, we would be chucked into a flu pit.
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Experts debunk fringe theory linking China’s coronavirus to weapons research
As China attempts to contain the spread of a new coronavirus that has left more than 100 people dead, rumors and disinformation have spread amid the scramble for answers.
Some of the speculation has centered on a virology institute in Wuhan, the city where the outbreak began. One fringe theory holds that the disaster could be the accidental result of biological weapons research.
But in conversations with The Washington Post, experts rejected the idea that the virus could be man-made.
After the 2014 Ebola outbreak, fringe news outlets suggested spuriously that the U.S. Department of Defense had manufactured the virus. In the Soviet Union, military labs did look into whether the virus could be used as a weapon but ultimately abandoned those hopes.
The speculation may be linked to uncertainty over where the ongoing novel coronavirus outbreak originated. Some scientists initially suspected a seafood market in Wuhan may have been the starting point, but a study by Chinese researchers and published in the Lancet on Friday questioned that analysis.
Late Tuesday, Hu Xijin, editor of the nationalistic Global Times newspaper, wrote that a conspiracy theory had emerged in China that the United States was responsible for the outbreak. “Their logic: Why always China?” Hu wrote on Twitter. “But most Chinese don’t believe it.”
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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/30/heal ... index.htmlA deadly virus is spreading from state to state and has infected 15 million Americans so far. It's influenza
The novel coronavirus that's sickening thousands globally -- and at least five people in the US -- is inspiring countries to close their borders and Americans to buy up surgical masks quicker than major retailers can restock them.
There's another virus that has infected 15 million Americans across the country and killed more than 8,200 people this season alone. It's not a new pandemic -- it's influenza.
The 2019-2020 flu season is projected to be one of the worst in a decade, according to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. At least 140,000 people have been hospitalized with complications from the flu, and that number is predicted to climb as flu activity swirls.
The flu is a constant in Americans' lives. It's that familiarity that makes it more dangerous to underestimate, said Dr. Margot Savoy, chair of Family and Community Medicine at Temple University's Lewis Katz School of Medicine.
"Lumping all the viral illness we tend to catch in the winter sometimes makes us too comfortable thinking everything is 'just a bad cold,'" she said. "We underestimate how deadly influenza really is."
Even the low-end estimate of deaths each year is startling, Savoy said: The Centers for Disease Control predicts at least 12,000 people will die from the flu in the US every year. In the 2017-2018 flu season, as many as 61,000 people died, and 45 million were sickened.
In the 2019-2020 season so far, 15 million people in the US have gotten the flu and 8,200 people have died from it, including at least 54 children. Flu activity has been elevated for 11 weeks straight, the CDC reported, and will likely continue for the next several weeks.
Savoy, who also serves on the American Academy of Family Physician's board of directors, said the novelty of emerging infections can overshadow the flu. People are less panicked about the flu because healthcare providers "appear to have control" over the infection.
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https://i.imgur.com/GZDCF6C.png
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Terrifying, isn't it?
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Terrifying, isn't it?
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https://www.indiatoday.in/science/story ... 2020-01-30Coronavirus: Pish-posh, experts say to AYUSH homeopathy push as epidemic reaches India
Experts have called out the government for pushing homeopathy as a possible preventive treatment option for coronavirus infections. There's no scientific evidence for the efficacy of homeopathic treatment.
The government is drawing flak for pushing homeopathy as a possible preventive treatment option for coronavirus infections -- which have killed 170 people in China -- and says its advisory was only a preventive measure. India reported its first confirmed infection on Thursday.
Although popular, homeopathy is based on ideas that fly in the face of scientific wisdom, such as its "minimum dose" assumption that diluting a medicine's active ingredient increases its efficiency, or its "water memory" hypothesis. Benefits, if any, are attributed to a placebo effect, and there is evidence that homeopathic treatment can be dangerous.
But India's Ministry of AYUSH, set up in November 2014 and given a 15 per cent funding hike last year, claims homeopathy is a "a time tested therapy". AYUSH is an acronym for Ayurveda, Yoga and Naturopathy, Unani, Siddha, Sowa Rigpa and Homoeopathy.
On January 29, 2020, the Ministry of AYUSH published an advisory in five languages prescribing coronavirus prevention and symptom management methods based on ayurveda, homeopathy and unani.
The Indian Medical Association considers practitioners of ayurveda, unani and homeopathy who are not licensed to practice modern medicine to be quacks.
I'm sure cow urine will stomp out the virus. :roll:
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And what about unprotected sex with pets, both living and dead? Does that get the WHO seal of approval, too?
And fish. I mean is it OK to have unprotected sex with a dead mackerel or not? Or a live one, come to that.
And birds. You know, is unprotected sex with live or dead penguins a no-no?
These things matter.
And fish. I mean is it OK to have unprotected sex with a dead mackerel or not? Or a live one, come to that.
And birds. You know, is unprotected sex with live or dead penguins a no-no?
These things matter.
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Face mask creativity (too big to embed): https://i.imgur.com/f2xlBbH.jpg
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https://www.dw.com/en/pakistan-declares ... a-52224762Pakistan declares national emergency over locust swarms
Prime Minister Imran Khan declared the emergency to protect crops and help farmers. The Pakistani government said it was the worst locust infestation in more than two decades.
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Yes, AC, anything that is not on the list is fair game. If you want to have unprotected sex with lobotomized domestic free range pangolins from Uzbekistan, it us your god given right, but you must respect the list!
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/drug-ove ... 10485.htmlDrug Overdose Deaths Drop for First Time in Nearly Two Decades
Deaths from drug overdoses dipped in 2018 for the first time in nearly two decades as the nation continues to battle the opioid crisis.
The number of drug overdoses deaths dropped 4.1 percent from 70,237 in 2017 to 67,367 in 2018, according to data released Thursday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The drop in drug deaths boosted life expectancy. In 2018, life expectancy was 78.7 years, a o.1 percent increase from the 2017 level of 78.6 years. The increase is still lower than in 2014, when life expectancy peaked at 78.9 years.
However, although deaths were down nationally, some states suffered more overdose fatalities in 2018 than during the previous year, namely California, Delaware, Missouri, New Jersey, and South Carolina.
The CDC’s report gives President Trump’s reelection campaign a boost during an election year. The White House declared the opioid epidemic a public-health crisis in 2017, and the administration has focused on stiffening penalties for drug dealers as well taking steps to prevent people from getting addicted in the first place and increasing federal funding to help addicts get a second chance. The president said he wants to see solutions to the “general drug crisis” as well as the problems caused specifically by opioids.
Deaths from opioids increased about 8 percent from 1999 to 2013, and then spiked 70 percent from 2013 to 2017 as the crisis spun out of control. Close to 400,000 Americans are estimated to have died between 1999 and 2017 as a result of the opioid crisis. Almost every state along with thousands of local governments and other entities have sued the pharmaceutical industry over the opioid crisis.
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Bangladeshi aircrew refuse to work on flight evacuating citizens from Wuhan
Aircrew from Bangladesh’s national carrier Biman have refused to work on a flight aimed at repatriating citizens from virus-hit Chinese cities, forcing the government to scrap the evacuation plan.
The South Asian nation last week evacuated 312 people, mostly students, from the epicenter of the deadly outbreak, and had planned a second flight for another 171 Bangladeshis.
“We can’t bring them because we can’t send any flight,” foreign minister A.K. Abdul Momen told reporters on Saturday.
“No crew wants to go there. The crew who went there earlier don’t want to go either.”
The outbreak, which has killed more than 800 people and infected tens of thousands across China, has spread to nearly more than two dozen other countries and sparked global concern.
There have been no cases recorded in Bangladesh.
The evacuees and aircrew who returned to Dhaka on February 1 are being quarantined for 14 days at a camp usually used for Haj pilgrims.
Health officials say none have tested positive for the virus.
The minister said the government was trying to charter a Chinese flight instead, but so far without success.
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What could go wrong?
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2020/02/c ... ction.html
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2020/02/c ... ction.html
The other related problem is where many non-sick people stay away from work to avoid getting sick. If enough people do this, especially at critical infrastructure jobs, then the whole economy may collapse. And not only is a collapsed economy bad for most everyone, sick people do much worse there. Not only can’t they get to a doctor or hospital, they might not even be able to get food or heating/cooling. Infected surfaces don’t get cleaned, and maybe even dead bodies don’t get removed. Thieves don’t get stopped. And so on. We can already see social support partially collapsing in Wuhan now, and it’s not pretty.
There’s an obvious, if disturbing, solution here: controlled infection. We could not only insist that critical workers go to work, but we might also choose on purpose who gets exposed when. We can’t slow down infection very much, but we can speed it up a lot, via deliberately exposing particular people at particular times, according to a plan.
Such a plan shouldn’t just expose random people early, as they’d be likely to infect others around them. Instead, groups might be taken together to isolated places to be exposed, or maybe whole city blocks could be isolated and then exposed at once. Those who work in critical infrastructure, especially medicine, are ideal candidates to go early. Such a plan should only expose a small fraction of each critical workforce at any one time, so that most of them remain available to keep the lights on.
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Even better, we could just kill off the people who aren't sick yet so we don't have to worry about them getting sick. We should start with the ones that none of us like; vegans, and hippies, and anti-vaxxers to name a few. I can't believe no one has ever thought of this idea before. :roll:
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"Can I get this cheeseburger gluten free, leave out the carbs, free range non-GMO cows and dairy-free cheese?"
[stabby-stabby-stab-stab-stab-stab]
Sorry, folks, but as we know, it's for the greater good.
"Yes, the greater good!"
[stabby-stabby-stab-stab-stab-stab]
Sorry, folks, but as we know, it's for the greater good.
"Yes, the greater good!"
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The Internet: Bringing you the crazy meanderings of idiots since 1993.Pyrrho wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:31 pm What could go wrong?
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2020/02/c ... ction.html
The other related problem is where many non-sick people stay away from work to avoid getting sick. If enough people do this, especially at critical infrastructure jobs, then the whole economy may collapse. And not only is a collapsed economy bad for most everyone, sick people do much worse there. Not only can’t they get to a doctor or hospital, they might not even be able to get food or heating/cooling. Infected surfaces don’t get cleaned, and maybe even dead bodies don’t get removed. Thieves don’t get stopped. And so on. We can already see social support partially collapsing in Wuhan now, and it’s not pretty.
There’s an obvious, if disturbing, solution here: controlled infection. We could not only insist that critical workers go to work, but we might also choose on purpose who gets exposed when. We can’t slow down infection very much, but we can speed it up a lot, via deliberately exposing particular people at particular times, according to a plan.
Such a plan shouldn’t just expose random people early, as they’d be likely to infect others around them. Instead, groups might be taken together to isolated places to be exposed, or maybe whole city blocks could be isolated and then exposed at once. Those who work in critical infrastructure, especially medicine, are ideal candidates to go early. Such a plan should only expose a small fraction of each critical workforce at any one time, so that most of them remain available to keep the lights on.
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Why am I reminded of the soldiers clearing graphite from the roof of the Chernobyl reactor.
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Cure for sin. Seriously.
https://pubpeer.com/publications/0B6665 ... 44B23D4E#1
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I actually wasted my time reading this paper. And it has impeccable authorship:
They couldn't find a few more Chaudhuris or variations thereof?Tapan K Chaudhuri*, Tushar K Chowdhury, Tandra R Chaudhuri, Taposh K Chowdhury and Bulu R Chowdhury
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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/21/heal ... index.htmlA record-breaking 105 US children have died from flu so far this season
So far this season,105 children have died from the flu, according to data released Friday by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This is the highest number of child flu deaths at this point in the season since the CDC started keeping records in 2004, except for the 2009 flu pandemic.
It has been an "unusual" flu season with a higher proportion of children and young adults affected than the older population, according to Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University Medical Center.
The earlier prevalence of influenza B -- a flu strain that tends to be more common in children -- could be a reason why more children were affected, Schaffner said. Also, as the number of influenza B cases decreased, the number of H1N1 cases increased, he said. H1N1 is a subtype of the influenza A strain, which also affects children more than adults.
"This is the first time in 25 years where [influenza B] became so common so early," said Dr. Buddy Creech, an associate professor of pediatric infectious diseases at Vanderbilt University Medical Center.
Neither Schaffner nor Creech know why this year's influenza timeline is so different.
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Iran says official who played down virus fears is infected
:iron-e:DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — The head of an Iranian government task force on the coronavirus who had urged the public not to overreact about its spread has tested positive for the illness himself, authorities said Tuesday, as new cases emanating from the country rapidly emerged across the Middle East.
Only a day earlier, a coughing and heavily sweating Iraj Harirchi said at a televised news conference in Tehran that “the situation is almost stable in the country."
The acknowledgement of Harirchi's illness underscores a growing crisis of confidence felt by many in Iran after nationwide economic protests, a U.S. drone striking killing a top Iranian general and Iran accidentally shooting down a commercial jetliner and insisting for days that it hadn't.
On Monday, however, he had offered a far different assessment while repeatedly wiping his brow while standing beside government spokesman Ali Rabiei.
“Currently the situation is almost stable in the country and we could manage to minimize the problem," Harirchi said. He also said that "quarantines belong to the Stone Age."
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Interesting tweet, need to check, but I seem to recall most of these....
https://twitter.com/me_think_free/statu ... 9848481794
Need to check, but it sure seems like it...
Not too sure about Ebola in 2018, but the rest of them seem to be correct... interesting.
https://twitter.com/me_think_free/statu ... 9848481794
Not too sure about Ebola in 2018, but the rest of them seem to be correct... interesting.