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I have no idea of the utility or practicality of these rounds. But hot damn they look cool

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The flying Ginsu
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Nyarlathotep wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 2:18 am I have no idea of the utility or practicality of these rounds. But hot damn they look cool

Illegal in Florida :x
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 12:11 pm Think about how dangerous it has to be, to be illegal in the "hold muh beer" state. :)
Wellllll .... It does get damn dry here. I started a fire that came within an inch of going out of control and there was a fire on the watershed land next to me that caused my road to be closed. I do sorta get it. Sorta.
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Interesting.

When I think of Florida I think swamps and beaches, not dry brush.
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Nyarlathotep wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 1:45 pm Interesting.

When I think of Florida I think swamps and beaches, not dry brush.
Hell, we were giving Texas a run for it's money back in the day with cattle raising. People ranch here, lots of cattle and horses.
https://www.freshfromflorida.com/conten ... -00044.pdf

Thing is that tourists will come here to lay on the beach, not so much lay out in the desert in TX.
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Watch out for the recoil, dude.
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Spoiler:
Trench art WWI
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Looka this ...
A shell fragment from Normandy
https://i.postimg.cc/xNm1JX9j/IMG-8019.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/JtHnd2jw/IMG-8022.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/N5hMhkxK/IMG-8023.jpg

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Ours probably. It was supposedly found on the beach.
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When you say "ours", who do you mean?
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Bought one of these things.
http://www.inert-ord.net/brit/mills/cup.jpg

Fits on the end of an Enfield
The No.36 was designed to be used with a discharger cup, replacing the No.23 Rod Grenade system.

The cup clamped to the muzzle of the Lee Enfield rifle. The rifle was held at a 45° angle and a sliding gas vent on the cup was used for range adjustment - 200yds fully closed, 80 yards fully open. There are no calibrated markings, so it was a rough estimate for anything in between.

A special gascheck disk was screwed to the base of the grenade. To use, the grenade was inserted into the cup and the pin pulled. The stock of the rifle was planted on the ground and using a special blank cartridge the grenade was fired. As the grenade left the cup the safety lever would be freed.

This discharged was also used to fire other grenade types as well.
www.millsgrenades for extensive base plug identification and dozens of great Mills Bomb photos.
05.11.18
http://www.inert-ord.net/brit/mills/pg3.html

I always liked Enfields. I have 5 or 6 (when my bro died I got his, can't recall how many he had). The earliest is a mk1 no3 (??? the naming convention is impenetrable.) Dated 1912 sorta at the height of empire.

It occurs to me that the laws against having "grenade launchers" affixed to rifles refers to this.

Idiots.

Anyway, the way it works is that you unscrew the part with the hooks a bit until they can freely move. You hook them (the hooks, what else?) into the holes on the front of the rifle then you tighten the fat part thus forcing the angled base against the hooks thus forcing them apart thus clamping the thing firmly onto the rifle. Simple yet elegant.
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Question for Ed:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wh ... r-n1043726
The Youngstown Police Department and the FBI searched the home of Reardon's mother in New Middletown, Ohio, and confiscated two AR-15s, a rifle with a bayonet, a .40 caliber anti-tank gun, knives, a gas mask, a bulletproof vest, several magazines and 223 rounds of ammunition, WFMJ reported.
What do you make of the highlighted? :notsure:
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Some odd thing. Only anti-tsnk rifle I am familiar with is the Boys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_anti-tank_rifle
but thats .55.

Remember that this is NBC, not sure you can rely on them. As reported, nothing there is illegal, except, maybe for the ar's. Not sure about the law in Ohio.
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I see. I thought .40 cal seemed pretty small caliber for an "anti-tank gun" but I guess before and during WW 2, such small caliber anti-tank weapons existed (the Germans had some at 7.92 mm for example).

They would be completely ineffective against modern tank armor, I would imagine, but in the early days of tanks, maybe not so.
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When German infantry started to meet the Russian T-34 they dubbed their anti-tank weapon (not a gun but a small cannon) Panzeranklopfgerät, something like "appliance to knock (politely) on tanks" "tank door knocker".

[Translation improved.]
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For those interested: Anti-tank warfare, a page with all the gruesome details.
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Jules Verne wrote:But the point in which the Americans singularly distanced the
Europeans was in the science of gunnery. Not, indeed, that
their weapons retained a higher degree of perfection than
theirs, but that they exhibited unheard-of dimensions, and
consequently attained hitherto unheard-of ranges. In point of
grazing, plunging, oblique, or enfilading, or point-blank
firing, the English, French, and Prussians have nothing to
learn; but their cannon, howitzers, and mortars are mere
pocket-pistols compared with the formidable engines of the
American artillery.

This fact need surprise no one. The Yankees, the first
mechanicians in the world, are engineers-- just as the Italians
are musicians and the Germans metaphysicians-- by right of birth.
Nothing is more natural, therefore, than to perceive them
applying their audacious ingenuity to the science of gunnery.
Witness the marvels of Parrott, Dahlgren, and Rodman.
The Armstrong, Palliser, and Beaulieu guns were compelled to bow
before their transatlantic rivals.

Now when an American has an idea, he directly seeks a second
American to share it. If there be three, they elect a president
and two secretaries. Given four, they name a keeper of records,
and the office is ready for work; five, they convene a general
meeting, and the club is fully constituted. So things were
managed in Baltimore. The inventor of a new cannon associated
himself with the caster and the borer. Thus was formed the
nucleus of the "Gun Club." In a single month after its formation
it numbered 1,833 effective members and 30,565 corresponding members.

One condition was imposed as a _sine qua non_ upon every
candidate for admission into the association, and that was the
condition of having designed, or (more or less) perfected a
cannon; or, in default of a cannon, at least a firearm of
some description. It may, however, be mentioned that mere
inventors of revolvers, fire-shooting carbines, and similar
small arms, met with little consideration. Artillerists always
commanded the chief place of favor.

The estimation in which these gentlemen were held, according to
one of the most scientific exponents of the Gun Club, was
"proportional to the masses of their guns, and in the direct
ratio of the square of the distances attained by their projectiles."

The Gun Club once founded, it is easy to conceive the result of
the inventive genius of the Americans. Their military weapons
attained colossal proportions, and their projectiles, exceeding
the prescribed limits, unfortunately occasionally cut in two
some unoffending pedestrians. These inventions, in fact, left
far in the rear the timid instruments of European artillery.

It is but fair to add that these Yankees, brave as they have
ever proved themselves to be, did not confine themselves to
theories and formulae, but that they paid heavily, _in propria
persona_, for their inventions. Among them were to be counted
officers of all ranks, from lieutenants to generals; military
men of every age, from those who were just making their _debut_
in the profession of arms up to those who had grown old in the
gun-carriage. Many had found their rest on the field of battle
whose names figured in the "Book of Honor" of the Gun Club; and
of those who made good their return the greater proportion bore
the marks of their indisputable valor. Crutches, wooden legs,
artificial arms, steel hooks, caoutchouc jaws, silver craniums,
platinum noses, were all to be found in the collection; and it
was calculated by the great statistician Pitcairn that throughout
the Gun Club there was not quite one arm between four persons
and two legs between six.
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The redoubtable Floridian automatic Black Mamba:

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gnome wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:21 am
Jules Verne wrote:But the point in which the Americans singularly distanced the
Europeans was in the science of gunnery. Not, indeed, that
their weapons retained a higher degree of perfection than
theirs, but that they exhibited unheard-of dimensions, and
consequently attained hitherto unheard-of ranges. In point of
grazing, plunging, oblique, or enfilading, or point-blank
firing, the English, French, and Prussians have nothing to
learn; but their cannon, howitzers, and mortars are mere
pocket-pistols compared with the formidable engines of the
American artillery.

This fact need surprise no one. The Yankees, the first
mechanicians in the world, are engineers-- just as the Italians
are musicians and the Germans metaphysicians-- by right of birth.
Nothing is more natural, therefore, than to perceive them
applying their audacious ingenuity to the science of gunnery.
Witness the marvels of Parrott, Dahlgren, and Rodman.
The Armstrong, Palliser, and Beaulieu guns were compelled to bow
before their transatlantic rivals.

Now when an American has an idea, he directly seeks a second
American to share it. If there be three, they elect a president
and two secretaries. Given four, they name a keeper of records,
and the office is ready for work; five, they convene a general
meeting, and the club is fully constituted. So things were
managed in Baltimore. The inventor of a new cannon associated
himself with the caster and the borer. Thus was formed the
nucleus of the "Gun Club." In a single month after its formation
it numbered 1,833 effective members and 30,565 corresponding members.

One condition was imposed as a _sine qua non_ upon every
candidate for admission into the association, and that was the
condition of having designed, or (more or less) perfected a
cannon; or, in default of a cannon, at least a firearm of
some description. It may, however, be mentioned that mere
inventors of revolvers, fire-shooting carbines, and similar
small arms, met with little consideration. Artillerists always
commanded the chief place of favor.

The estimation in which these gentlemen were held, according to
one of the most scientific exponents of the Gun Club, was
"proportional to the masses of their guns, and in the direct
ratio of the square of the distances attained by their projectiles."



The Gun Club once founded, it is easy to conceive the result of
the inventive genius of the Americans. Their military weapons
attained colossal proportions, and their projectiles, exceeding
the prescribed limits, unfortunately occasionally cut in two
some unoffending pedestrians. These inventions, in fact, left
far in the rear the timid instruments of European artillery.

It is but fair to add that these Yankees, brave as they have
ever proved themselves to be, did not confine themselves to
theories and formulae, but that they paid heavily, _in propria
persona_, for their inventions. Among them were to be counted
officers of all ranks, from lieutenants to generals; military
men of every age, from those who were just making their _debut_
in the profession of arms up to those who had grown old in the
gun-carriage. Many had found their rest on the field of battle
whose names figured in the "Book of Honor" of the Gun Club; and
of those who made good their return the greater proportion bore
the marks of their indisputable valor. Crutches, wooden legs,
artificial arms, steel hooks, caoutchouc jaws, silver craniums,
platinum noses, were all to be found in the collection; and it
was calculated by the great statistician Pitcairn that throughout
the Gun Club there was not quite one arm between four persons
and two legs between six.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/imag ... UGd28zQTxw

Not a millimeter in the carload.
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Un-American activities quashed:
Oklahoma judge rejects challenge to 'permitless carry' law

An Oklahoma judge on Wednesday rejected an attempt by a Democratic state lawmaker and gun safety advocates to block a new law that will allow most people in the state to carry a firearm in public without a background check or training.

After hearing arguments from both sides, Oklahoma County District Judge Don Andrews rejected a request by Oklahoma City Democratic Rep. Jason Lowe for a preliminary injunction that would have stopped the "permitless carry" law from taking effect on Friday.

Lowe's attorney, Melanie Rughani, argued that the bill violated the state's constitutional single-subject rule that requires bills to deal with only one topic. But the judge said Rughani failed to prove that the law taking effect would cause irreparable harm to the plaintiffs.

...

Dubbed "constitutional carry" by its supporters, the bill approved overwhelmingly by the GOP-led Legislature was the first signed into law by new Republican Gov. Kevin Stitt. It would allow most adults 21 and older to carry firearms, concealed or openly, without a license that currently requires a background check and training. Exceptions would include anyone in the country illegally or those convicted of certain crimes. Firearms would still be prohibited in certain locations, including public buildings, schools, professional sporting events, casinos and bars.

According to the National Rifle Association, at least 14 states have approved some version of permitless carry.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/okl ... w-66648965

Will the Wild West style duel in the streets (as pictured in the movies) come back in fashion? :mrgreen:
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:11 pm It never really was in fashion, it happened a few times.

And the murder rate was well below that of current year Chicago, let alone London.
Don't you crush my dreams! :x Murica is the pop luminary of the world and has a reputation to maintain. And I'm sure it would catch on, just have some celebrities shoot it out Western style.


Now some guns for ed:

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↑ I wasn't ignorant of these facts, especially about the black cowhands.

And mentioned the Natives nowhere.

We decidedly need a sarcasm/irony emoji.

Some vintage por… I mean pop:

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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:26 am Just debunking the usual misapprehensions without implying anything about you. 8)
Now I'll really crush your dreams:
Hm-hm…


I learned a lot when I was a kid (and long before I knew any English) by reading this series of comics:

https://i.imgur.com/cvmhWs1.jpg
(Note that the hero still smokes, now it's a politically correct grass blade he sucks. The authors who have continued the series also think that all the characters, including the horse, have to laugh when a scene is "funny".)

Morris, the author, was truly an expert, even trolling his close colleague Charlier who drew "serious" western (with blood and sweat and dirt) when he goofed:

https://i.imgur.com/rRNIMrz.jpg

:mrgreen:
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:mrgreen:
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A drilling. Very expense item that. German mostly I think.
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I'd say Vierling as there are 4 barrels. (And that would be Dreiling for 3, not Drilling.)

Probably made in its time by Prinz Waffen.

:coolspecs:
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Witness wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:57 am I'd say Vierling as there are 4 barrels. (And that would be Dreiling for 3, not Drilling.)

Probably made in its time by Prinz Waffen.

:coolspecs:
This is the US bub. No metric hocus pocus here.

BTW, I learned something, thank you. I never really got interested in these critters and assumed that the word referred to some aspect of the manufacture. Now I shall be henceforth <more> insufferable :D
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ed wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:03 amNow I shall be henceforth <more> insufferable :D
I look forward to it! :)

Once the drugs have worn off, evidently.
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:D
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ed's sweet ride:

https://i.imgur.com/Ze66jo5.png

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