Meghan and Harry thread

[Hotarubi]

She's a twofer. A coon and woman. He doesn't wear the trousers

A triple threat.

You forgot {suitably plonking tome of voice} an American.

And they might play it different if she were a deferential and demure 22 year old Papuan princess.
C of E of course. The Queen would already be her Queen.
100% British from the get go. Even the bone through her nose would be British.

This pretty much sums it up:

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-ente ... 87971.html

Here you have a perfect microcosm of left v right. She says press racism alone. He says no. She immediately claims white privilege for having the audacity to disagree with her. He goes all indignant about how tolerant he is of black people. We tolerate them. Charming.

Both are right *and* wrong. Both are racists.

There is a certain amount of racism in the Megster's press coverage in the UK press. Absolutely. Alot.
But there are other factors involved. Not all the negativity is about "The Darkness." As you correctly point out, she is....AMERICAN. EW! Cant have Amercan royalty. They have no class. You only find Crowns on Turkeys in the USA. Which Britain invented. Look what they did to the old place.

Daughter of single parent. What does that tell you?

Divorcee? So...half of California's been through it. Slut.

Actress. Fucking actress? She was shit in that as well.

Have a look. Go on. How "Diana" is she. Yes. See? Not worthy . Plastic uppity bitch.

Throw in all of the above and the obvious Mrs Simpson ohnonotagain, and "shes a what?" and you've got mana from heaven for journos.

She was on a hiding to nothing, and I'm not even slightly surprised they wanted to dump all the shit and get out of the country. Not surprised at all. Good luck to them.

[Giz]

Wait, he said “ Fox dismissed this view, shaking his head and saying: "It's not racism. We're the most tolerant lovely country in Europe.”. What else could he have said?

[Hotarubi]

Wait, he said “ Fox dismissed this view, shaking his head and saying: "It's not racism. We're the most tolerant lovely country in Europe.”. What else could he have said?

Something along the lines of "the correct position is that "*some* of the criticism is racially motivated." Some. Not all. Fox is saying none of it is, she is saying all of it is. Both are wrong.

Remember, bring "tolerant" of something/someone implies your default position is intolerance.

On Fox:

Wait, his brother-in-law is Richard Ayoade? Yes, and he asked Ayoade to publicly support him on Twitter after his Question Time appearance.

https://i.imgur.com/DZqjlxS.jpg

And did he? Of course not. According to Fox, Ayoade angrily told him: “You have never encountered racism.” To which Fox replied that he had, because he worked in Kenya once and “racism can be deferential”.

When asked what deferential racism was, Fox didn't know.

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Prince Harry is friendless and unemployed in LA, misses 'having a structure': report (Fox)

It's been a little over a month since Prince Harry and Meghan Markle made the bold move to California

"Bold". Yes, sure.

"Bold" is walking into Lake Ed without regard for the creatures that lurk. That is "Bold". Moving to Cali, being rich and living in somebody else's palatial digs is not "Bold". It is nothing. It is like Whoopie Goldberg explaining that single motherhood is not a problem, "hell, I do it".

Bold. Next they'll be invoking the word "hero".

[Giz]

Wait, he said “ Fox dismissed this view, shaking his head and saying: "It's not racism. We're the most tolerant lovely country in Europe.”. What else could he have said?

Something along the lines of "the correct position is that "*some* of the criticism is racially motivated." Some. Not all. Fox is saying none of it is, she is saying all of it is. Both are wrong.

Remember, bring "tolerant" of something/someone implies your default position is intolerance.

On Fox:

Wait, his brother-in-law is Richard Ayoade? Yes, and he asked Ayoade to publicly support him on Twitter after his Question Time appearance.

https://i.imgur.com/DZqjlxS.jpg

And did he? Of course not. According to Fox, Ayoade angrily told him: “You have never encountered racism.” To which Fox replied that he had, because he worked in Kenya once and “racism can be deferential”.

When asked what deferential racism was, Fox didn't know.

Sorry, my response was more to “ We tolerate them. Charming.”

Because, in a multicultural society, surely what we are aiming for is toleration? ( I mean, you don’t have to think Vanilla Ice’s rap oeuvre is great or actively seek it out, but it should be tolerated as part of greater society.)

[Anaxagoras]

Good point.

As for "unemployed", his only real job was in the army, right?

Nothing since then other than wealthy layabout.

When he was a "Royal" he had some "Royal duties" which involved things like, I suppose, meeting foreign dignitaries and appearing at some public events. Perhaps the opening of a new civic center or some such thing. Shaking hands and making chit-chat. Perhaps giving a speech. Not what most people would consider a "real job" I suppose, but something. I don't know how demanding those "duties" were. :notsure:

[Rob Lister]

You left out the more likely option three.

[Rob Lister]

They kill him.

[Hotarubi]

They kill him.

That's the contingency plan wrecked. Won't happen.

:mrgreen:

[Rob Lister]

Is Harry as vapid as she is? I'm not sure I've ever heard him speak.

[Rob Lister]

My wife was talking about her while we were driving around the other day. I mentioned that the Queen doesn't like her very much either. She said she thought that too but you can't believe what the media says. I told her I wasn't getting it from the media, I was getting it directly from the Queen, that I read her blog every day, that she's constantly talking shit about her.

She looked at me and said, 'You're lying. The queen doesn't have a blog.' I just shrugged, 'believe what you want'. But I just know that she went hunting for it once I was out of sight.

[Anaxagoras]

It's the Daily Fail quoting an anonymous source. Maybe it's true, but the British tabloids have made it their mission to make everyone hate Meghan Markle.

[Hotarubi]

The old Daily Fail's "unnamed source."

Good one.

[Witness]

Let me contribute to this tabloid thread:

Meghan Markle wants to run for president of United States, claims Lady Colin Campbell

Famous author Lady Colin Campbell has claimed that Duchess of Sussex Meghan Markle wants to run for president of the United States in the future.

The 70-year-old author who appeared in I’m A Celebrity said the wife of Prince Harry has political ambitions and her decision to move to the United States was part of the plan.

...

Speaking to FEMAIL!, Lady Campbell said, I know the Duchess of Sussex has political ambitions and I’ve been told that one day she wants to run for President.

She added, I think everything she is doing, leaving the royal family and moving back to California is part of her plan and she has taken Harry along with her.

https://mazainside.com/meghan-markle-wa ... -campbell/

:mrgreen:

[Anaxagoras]

Well at least the source has a name this time.

[Hotarubi]

Well at least the source has a name this time.

Read it again. It does not.

[Anaxagoras]

Well at least the source has a name this time.

Read it again. It does not.

Ah, you're right, I stand corrected.

[Anaxagoras]

Wouldn't she have to divorce whatsisface and stop calling herself duchess?

To run for president?

As far as I know, there is no legal reason why she would have to do either, but I'm not an expert on the subject.

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution sets three qualifications for holding the presidency. To serve as president, one must:

be a natural-born U.S. citizen of the United States;
be at least 35 years old;
be a resident in the United States for at least 14 years.[1]
A person who meets the above qualifications would, however, still be disqualified from holding the office of president under any of the following conditions:

Under Article I, Section 3, Clause 7, upon conviction in impeachment cases, the Senate has the option to order, by a simple majority, that an individual be forever disqualified from holding federal office, which includes that of president.[2]
Under Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment, no person who swore an oath to support the Constitution, and later rebelled against the United States, is eligible to become president. However, this disqualification can be lifted by a two-thirds vote of each house of Congress.[3]
Under the Twenty-second Amendment, no person can be elected president more than twice. The amendment also specifies that if any eligible person serves as president or acting president for more than two years of a term for which some other eligible person was elected president, the former can only be elected president once.[4][5]

Link

Nothing in constitution would seem to prohibit it. Assuming that she has resided in the United States for at least 14 years, which she probably has.

[Giz]

Maybe the foreign emoluments clause would discourage it?

“ No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”

There is also an amendment pending (has been pending since 1810) which would specifically ban it.

[Anaxagoras]

So she would have to give up the title of Duchess and renounce any emoluments from the British Crown. I don't think she would have to divorce Harry though.

[Rob Lister]

I predict they will soon be long divorced. :)

I give them two more years before the unofficial separation, and no more than three for the more official version of that. It might have lasted much longer if they stayed in the UK, but now that she's back on her turf ...

[Hotarubi]

Wouldn't she have to divorce whatsisface and stop calling herself duchess?

Whereas the Oprah thing is entirely plausible.

Whoopi Goldberg needs to get in on this too.

How to fight systemic racism

1) Marry a rich white royal.

2) ...

Ftfy.

[Witness]

So Harry would become President-consort or First Gentleman? :P

[Hotarubi]

It doesnt matter "who" the Megster chooses to "reach out" to. Someone will be critical of it or assign "motives" to it.

That's what constant unwarranted negative publicity does.

[ceptimus]

She does have very white teeth though. Just look at that photo. How does anyone get teeth that fucking white and unnatural-looking? They look like a row of Star Wars stormtrooper codpieces. I mean, you think Harry's shirt is white, but when you see it in contrast to those teeth, you realize that it's just a dull gray.

[Anaxagoras]

She does have very white teeth though. Just look at that photo. How does anyone get teeth that fucking white and unnatural-looking? They look like a row of Star Wars stormtrooper codpieces. I mean, you think Harry's shirt is white, but when you see it in contrast to those teeth, you realize that it's just a dull gray.

That's Hollywood teeth for you. I don't really know the details of how they do it, but perhaps they are not natural teeth? :notsure:

It's the only way the alleged hate crime (she was not seriously hurt and no one else saw it) can get enough publicity.

Or do I have it backward? Sharing publicity with the alleged hate crime is the only way the Duchess can get enough publicity.

Hmmm.

Althea Bernstein, A Biracial College Student, Says She Was Set On Fire By 4 White Men (Elle)

Althea Bernstein, an 18-year-old biracial woman from Madison, Wisconsin, was driving to her brother's house last Wednesday, when four white men allegedly doused her with fluid and tossed a flaming lighter inside her open car window, setting her neck and face on fire.

The college student suffered severe burns and will eventually need plastic surgery, according to Madison365. The incident is being investigated as a hate crime, according to the Madison Police Department incident report. Here's everything you need to know.

:notsure:

What happened to Althea Bernstein on June 24?

Bernstein was stopped at a red light when she heard someone yell “a racial epithet” at her, according to the police report. Her attackers, identified in the report as "four men, all white," allegedly sprayed liquid onto her face and threw a flaming lighter at her, causing the liquid to ignite.

She “patted out the flames,” according to the report, and went home. Bernstein later drove herself to the emergency room. Hospital staff believe the liquid was lighter fluid.

Bernstein told Good Morning America she hasn't slept or eaten much since the incident: "Once it happened, I don't even remember anything, but your brain still has that fight or flight response that takes care of you. So I made it home, I called my mom, I drove myself to the ER."

She suffered second- and third-degree burns and will need additional medical care. "It’s definitely a learning opportunity and I’m very very hopeful that these men sort of see all the responses and that they know they hurt me and that this is something that’s going to affect me for a while," Bernstein said on GMA. "I really hope that they choose to improve themselves."

OK, that last bit seals it. This never happened. The injuries are self-inflicted. She's playing the martyr.

[Hotarubi]

I'm a big fan of publicity hound shaming.

She wasnt a publicity hound in the UK. Other people decided she was, plastered her face all over the newspapers for months, mostly with "source" stories about how she wants to colonise Mars, then said "see?see? Always wants publicity and is not white St Diana of Mercedes."

That's my point.

[Doctor X]

I sometimes wonder what would have happened if HRH the Princess of All That is Wholesome and Proper English decided, "Nyaah . . . I'll walk" and had a longer relationship to, Heavens to Betsy . . . marriage! with "That Wog" how she would be remember'd and treated.

Rhetorical question.

– J.D.

[Hotarubi]

I sometimes wonder what would have happened if HRH the Princess of All That is Wholesome and Proper English decided, "Nyaah . . . I'll walk" and had a longer relationship to, Heavens to Betsy . . . marriage! with "That Wog" how she would be remember'd and treated.

Rhetorical question.

– J.D.

Princess Attention of Vacuous had already been forgiven for soiling herself with a Muslim. That's the amount of unwarranted adulation it commanded from her loyal proles.

Charles fucks a horse... evil. Princess Norma of Desmond fucks a polo player, an antiques dealer, the England rugby team and the son of the obnoxious racist owner of Harrods.....Charles evil.

As for her legacy alone? Being killed when she did was probably the best thing for it. It was only downhill from that point.

[ceptimus]

What could be better for a publicity hound, than to marry a prince? And after she's milked the marriage for the maximum publicity, she can get even more publicity by affairs, divorce, and then marrying some different rich and famous person - maybe a sport star, or politician next time.

[Doctor X]

Princess Attention of Vacuous had already been forgiven for soiling herself with a Muslim. That's the amount of unwarranted adulation it commanded from her loyal proles.

Just a dalliance. Proles can pretend nothing happened.

As for her legacy alone? Being killed when she did was probably the best thing for it. It was only downhill from that point.

Certainly. As a Wee Spud there was this magazine that use to print news until it stopped back when Saturday Night Live hired comedians. It had a section of quotes. I recall one:

She is so stupid.

– Helen Mirren on Lady Diana Spencer

no context was given. Italics in the Japanese Original. This was back when she caused me to watch Excalibur more often than those slides of shemp's Mom. Older Spuds were watching Caligula of course.

I digress.

Always wondered what generated that quote. I asked a relative who recently lived in Ol' Blightly who explained that that was the general understanding. A friend of hers apparently proclaimed that she has one "A-Level" . . . in home economics. I never bothered to confirm that since it is too good of a fucking story!

This was before Your Queen's "Horrible Anus" and all of that.

Anyways, like Lennon, Joplin, Buddy Holly, JFK, McCartney, she picked a good time to die.

– J.D.

[Hotarubi]

What could be better for a publicity hound, than to marry a prince? And after she's milked the marriage for the maximum publicity, she can get even more publicity by affairs, divorce, and then marrying some different rich and famous person - maybe a sport star, or politician next time.

I fail to see what she has personally done to you, or anyone for that matter, to warrant such hostility.

[ceptimus]

What hostility? Simply observations, and predictions. This is the kind of thing that publicity hounds do: good luck to them! Meghan is undoubtedly a very beautiful and clever person, which makes her very successful at what she does.

[Hotarubi]

What hostility? Simply observations, and predictions. This is the kind of thing that publicity hounds do: good luck to them! Meghan is undoubtedly a very beautiful and clever person, which makes her very successful at what she does.

You're kidding. Read your post again. Nothing but cynicism and hostility.

[Witness]

https://i.imgur.com/v9l5dal.jpg

[ed]

QED methinks

[Anaxagoras]

What hostility? Simply observations, and predictions. This is the kind of thing that publicity hounds do: good luck to them! Meghan is undoubtedly a very beautiful and clever person, which makes her very successful at what she does.

You're kidding. Read your post again. Nothing but cynicism and hostility.

Yeah, it's pretty obvious.

Is the same true for the girl who married his brother, I wonder? Kate Middleton, if memory serves.

Is she also a publicity hound who married him for the maximum publicity? After she's milked all the publicity she can out of the marriage, will she start having affairs and such? Just curious whether you think the same thoughts about her that you do about Meghan.

[Rob Lister]

What hostility? Simply observations, and predictions. This is the kind of thing that publicity hounds do: good luck to them! Meghan is undoubtedly a very beautiful and clever person, which makes her very successful at what she does.

You're kidding. Read your post again. Nothing but cynicism and hostility.

Yeah, it's pretty obvious.

Is the same true for the girl who married his brother, I wonder? Kate Middleton, if memory serves.

Is she also a publicity hound who married him for the maximum publicity? After she's milked all the publicity she can out of the marriage, will she start having affairs and such? Just curious whether you think the same thoughts about her that you do about Meghan.

Yea, but Kate will eventually becomes Queen! She also toes the royal line. Plus, she really is English!

[Hotarubi]

Plus, she really is English!

And she wasn't a black daughter of a single parent marrying above her station.

Can't have that.

[Hotarubi]

QED methinks

QED methinks.